[Hilly]

Has this been happening while on cycle or previous ?

when did it start?

did anything change food wise as it started

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[Hilly]

Option A – Drop to just test and primo – No AI etc

let the body normalise over 4-5 weeks.

Option B – drop to just test 200-250mg – let the body normalise – this may be the more direct route as primo also acts as an AI

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[Hilly]

From my understanding you can spike MPS every 3 hours or so I believe.

it needs to go up and then down in a basic sense.

However I would not her think this as it seems you are.

if your eating every 3-4 hours your good.

if your having EAA during training even if this is not spiking MPS its doing other things -keepoing a constant supply of EAA to be shutting into the muscles and then used for recovery.

Stopping BCAA stores being depleted etc etc

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[Hilly]

Agree with the guys above – you are in a good spot to grow and focus on that upper body

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[Hilly]

So I have many clients around your age that use test as there natural levels are in range but at the very bottom of it.

My outlook on this is – if we can keep our testosterone at what is optimal (top of range) with no negative health benefits then why would we not.

it improves energy, mood, physique, drive, sex drive etc etc

Being at the bottom range still has a negative effect on all of these.

there are things to consider – if you decide to do so then it would be a permanent decision as going on then coming off at this age could mean you will end up lower than you are now and worse off.

you would need constant blood work every 6 months to keep a check on health and that your dose is set up right.

you will always have to take synthetic testosterone.

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[Hilly]

In terms of dosage – it is person depending and what blood work shows especially if trying to control E@.

so I may star at 300mg – run this alongside the test for 4-5 weeks then check bloods and assess from here

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[Hilly]

For me this is no good.

I imagine this cycle is sending E2 high which us causing you to hold water and thus increase RHR.

On top of being very unfit. I would drop the drugs to cruise and bring in HIT cardio 3-4 times a week and steady state most days

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[Hilly]

Hello bud – So up to 6iu IMO is fine in a one off injection pre bed when looking to take this approach.

However you then have to gauge how it makes you feel – some feel to tired/lethargic etc so we would split it 3iuAm and 3iu Pre bed.

The idea here is to drive IGF levels higher than just taking 2iu daily and also means potential less insulin sensitivity issues.

I have had good successs with this approach for a long time and it was very popular for a very long time within BB.

does it mean its the best way – No but it allows a change during certain periods which I also feel is

beneficial.

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[Hilly]

Im using hgh for almost 2 years… I had high blood sugar issues in the beginning but after some time and with the use of berberine i never had any issues again.
Started with 2ius and titrated up to 6iu/day the last months.
After a certain point it felt like it didnt do any difference so i stopped for 2 months and came back for 1 month but wanted to try this mwf protocol as @Hilly recommend it for the off season… I feel defo fuller and more energetic, BG is stable, but just wondered if the spliting the dosage or take ot all in one shot should do any difference.
Thank you all for your replies!

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[Hilly]

Thank you guys! It’s seems like they act quite similar. Primo more gentle sides and change of better profile for muscle building. Is this comparably dosage mg vs mg?
And masteron probable more effective to keep estrogen lower, that seems good for me. I have tried masteron before and had high estrogen, but possible I did go to high on test.
Which dosage would you go on primo/masteron for 300-500mg test /w?

Kuba- you also mentioned prolactin. Does both primo/mast have a lowering effect on this if I add deca further down?

Finally does masteron add more for well being because of DHT or is this just “on paper”?

Best regards!

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[Hilly]

For most I will have the below

10ml ACV

15g glutamine

1/2 fresh lemon juice

Sea salt

Warm water

This then will be adapted for the person

My own

Is the above plus join in plus creatine

Have you ever known people to get gas from acv I’ve had terrible gas all day and the only thing I’ve done different is have acv this morning? Gunna trial tomorrow by having it again then o won’t have it Wednesday just to see [/quote]

Yes – Some people that already have a certain PH in the stomach get sides from ACV so I would drop that [/quote]

So would you do the drink just without the acv? [/quote]
yes

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[Hilly]

Hit the search button on here – this has been covered in depth.

Clare answer is also great.

I do think studying to degree level is a good move and vital for longevity as it not only teaches you foundation knowledge and more but also how to work and study at the level needed to excel in any field.

If your wanting to be a coach I would recommend studying nutrition and training in-depth.

Work with a higher level good coach to make sure you see what service and knowledge it required to be a good coach. Make sure the person you work with has been doing it several years to a good level and has lots of knowledge on all areas as well as a great bank of work.

See how they work, what is required, level of service and what they expect from you.

If you want to only work with BB clients then IMHO you need to become a BB first – otherwise its a bit of a joke in truth. You need to have walked the walk before you can hope to help others do so.

your pwn personal progress is and will always be a big selling point.

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[Hilly]

A meal you enjoy that gives you the macros you need for the day

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[Hilly]

So to confirm.

Your not usually consistent with water and we could say alot of the time your not getting in what you likely need – 3-4L

this to me for most is not enough if you are training alot etc and are of a larger build. However it shouldn’t be causing you to be super thirsty and most health professionals would say this is adequate in genera.

Your then taking A lot of salt and added low salt

Which would potentially lead to an electrolyte imbalance which then would drive thirst more – Now if this is an ongoing issue over a long time like you say then this could not be a cause but could be making it worse.

If defo think you just need to track water and make sure you get 5-6L daily and see what happens

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[Hilly]

What is the goal of the cycle – ?

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