[Hilly]

40/40/20 split as a start – \then asses from here.

make sure you are getting atleast 1g per lb of bodyweight in protein.

However as above there is much more to it at times but this would be your best start point and then you need to asses based on progress, performance, look etc

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[Hilly]

how is performance in gym?
how do you feel daily?
How low is food currently.

clen would be a good addition for this next push if its needed.

Masteron would be a possible addition if its needed but its hard for us to say without knowing the above and seeing pics TBH

I do agree with Max also a diet break may be useful depending on the above info. Have you been having any higher kcal/carb days or free meals ?

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[Hilly]

Thank you so much for the info! So now i’m 8 weeks ibto this mini cut, from 63.50 kg i’m now at 60.90 kg. On training days i’m having 140 g protein, 150 g carbs and 30g fat and on non training days i am on 150 g protein, 80 g carbs and 30g fats. I did not take anything yet. Should i continue this way? I still have too much fat on me in my opinion 💔

What is current cardio and daily steps.
What is your training split.

How are you looking currently – pics etc so we can asses BF.

I feel you should keep pushing naturally and get as lean as you possible can and leave the anavar for later.

Are you taking anything to aid in fat loss -TBJP cv burn for example

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[Hilly]

Friday – Chest/shoulders additional

Cardio done –
All meals in no issues
Very busy work day today as usual.

Ended up having to train late tonight at 7:30 which I dont enjoy but is what it is.

New plan working around the pec.

Incline machine press – x 12, x 12, x 12, x 12 – nothing to failure here as was working both good side and injured side.
Flat press machine – x 10, x 10, x 9F, x 6F wth 2 drop sets
Seated machine press – 4 second negative – x 10, x 10, x 11F, x 8F
Cable press – 8, x 8, x 8F, x 15F
Pec dec – 4 second negative and pause in contraction – x 10, x 10, x 9F

Cable laterals – x 10, x 10, x 14F, x 11F with a drop set
Machine lateral partials – x 20F, x 14F

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[Hilly]

Adding in primo would be fine and a very good move as E2 is high here.

You may not be getting sides but high E2 is not beneficial for fat loss and will IMO cause you issues when you get down to those last bits – you do not want to be in a higher E2 environment during prep

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Hello bud.

What is your wife’s body composition like – is she very muscular? What is body fat like? Lean – normal – above?

What is mobility like through shoulders/wrists

Did anything change when the symptoms started?

Reducing inflammation – TBJP curcumin
Keto diet

these would be my initial first 2 moves. Drop some water off etc and reduce inflammation and see if this improves in the short term.

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[Hilly]

Also as a follow up – what is your body comp like – if your not 10-14% I would work down to here as this will help also

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None of the above

I would look to alter your TRT dose to 20mg Daily.

Retest in 4-5 weeks

No other drugs

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Check out Hillys log m8, he successfully conceived on trt. You will also need L carnatine and hmg

Okay, i guess my next question would be if this is possible without HMG? I simply cannot afford to run HMG long term. I can definitely do HCG, L-Carnatine, and Clomid though.[/quote]
Hello bud

Is it possible – yes

is it likely – No

HMG is the drug that directly stimulates FSH which is were your sperm production is coming from. So without this you are going to struggle much more.

In this instance I would recommend coming off and trying to regain your HPTA

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[Hilly]

I personally find 1000-1200iu HCG MWF enough but you can do 2000iu if feel the need.

The rest looks ok to me.

L Car I would only use injectable – 400mg daily

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[Hilly]

Hi Liam you’ve mentioned 4 different carb sources that you are using and then the addition of fruit as an additional carb source and micronutrient.

You have a good mix here of carb sources, so there is no issue with you using bagels as carb sources in various meals. As long as the bagels digest well for you I’d carry on with your set up. You mentioned fruit I’d also ensure veggies are present too so you cover all bases here.

Fully agree with marc here

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agree with the ladies above –

it wont effect fat loss but still have in moderation as it will skew digestion to some extent if you have to many

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I am sorry to ruin your excitement bud but HGH is not going to take your physique to the next level and certainly not at those doses.

If you want to see a noticeable change to the physique in terms of muscle fullness/potential fat loss you need to be looking 4-6iu per day IME.

1-2iu is a replacement dose given to those that cant produce enough of there own medically –

So you need to increase that stock pile a fair bit lol.

However based on your post I would either not use the GH at all and stick to the AAS you are using.

Or take 2iu on wake/pre bed daily and accept the you are not going to see amazing things but if all else is on point you may find your body makes a little more progress than it would do without it –

Its just important here for me that you dont spend the money on the GH and are left annoyed/let down as you didn’t level up so to speak

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Thursday. -Rest day

Legs are very very sore.

cardio done
All meals in

very busy work day so not much else done today and thus nothing much to note

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[Hilly]

It would make sense overall to wait another couple of weeks to let all the testosterone leave the system as there is obviously some still kicking around.

HMG. Just as we discussed but source posting is not allows on here

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