[Hilly]

I would not run when on personally and just run afterwards.

The HCG may skew up E2 during prep.

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[Hilly]

I would take the ACV on waking fasted in warm water with 1/2 fresh lemon juice

Ginger is not something I have used so cant comment

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Fully agree with Kuba here

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[Hilly]

so fasting can and does have huge benefits – However there are many approaches of what people call fasting.

Something I utilise with alot of clients is simply not eating for 12 hours – so if you have last meal at 9pm your first meal would be 9am. This can really help people with digestive issues and maintain better sensitivity in a growth phase for those with a little higher body fat especially when coupled with fasted cardio.

this still gives a 12 hour window to eat that alot of people with have no issues getting the food in they need to grow and also spiking MPS enough.

Now any longer than this and I would agree with the above and say its not optimal at all for those looking to add muscle at an optimal rate.

However if one is cutting then I do feel its another good tool to use with an extended fast of maybe 16 hours not 12 leaving an 8 hour window. Again tho it depends on who you are.

If your a heavily muscled guy well above there natural limit then this is not ideal and far from optimal.

if your not and a less muscled person then it would IMO not cause any issues.

You have to look at these things specific if your own physique, environment and goals.

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[Hilly]

Thanks Pete. Maybe il try it at that dosage then.

Term is to add quality muscle but as much as possible

Moving to classic

I honestly wouldnt use tren.

I would use NPP and start with 150mg per week :). I think this would be better for your purposes and better on the body

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[Hilly]

I would start with 200mg of each split MWF -that is doubling your current dose and a much better ‘profile’ so to speak of drugs to build muscle.

I would then get bloods done at week 5-6 – asses progress, body comp and the blood work and decide what move to make next if anything needs changing at all 🙂

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[Hilly]

Totally fine IMO

ideally i would split this Monday/wednesday/Friday TBH for more stable levels but twice a week would be fine also.

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Wednesday – High day – legs

Good day – all went as should of – makes me happy

All high day meals in

Legs with a client who was visiting so I adjusted volume down a tad and we moved a little more weight than I normally do which was nice.

Only working sets listed

Lay ham curls – x 12, x 12, x 6F with 2 drop sets

Extensions – x 15, x 15, x 15, x 8F with 5 partials

Leg press done with a true 2 second negative – worked up from 2pps to 10PPS getting 1- reps every set, then dropped back for a BO set of 40 plus reps – think I hit 47

split squats – x 10, x 10, x 10

1 leg ham curls – done 10 reps with 10 partials – x 10, x 10, x 9F

Job done – Lower volume than normal – pretty trashed right now

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The more I think about this the more I want to add

I’ve seen a lot of talk about these sorts of things on social media lately. It upsets me a lot. These topics are very high level medicine. The authorities on these issues really are the specialized physicians of those fields. Not some guy on YouTube who I PROMISE YOU doesn’t understand the nuance and the complexity of these topics. Just Because someone can regurgitate the results of a study they read, doesn’t mean they know what they’re talking about. In fact, can that person even distinguish if it was a high quality study or not?

Point is – find a doctor you can be honest and open with. Ask them questions, hear their answers. These people on social media are reckless

fantastic post this is and i couldnt agree more.

Some of us here have great knowledge on certain things we have learned ourselves and practiced with and looked at bloods.

However when it comes to specific areas like this you must always only ever speak to a specialist of that field IMO

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[Hilly]

Agree with above – I personally dont see this as to low

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i meant per 100g

If you use an app such as myfitnesspal to find the amounts out, just stay consistent with the option you select. Sometimes there will be slight differences with the products in the drop-down list, so choose one and always use that one. That way any changes to your diet will be consistent and accurate.

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Fully agree with this

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I would move to a TRT phase as you suggest and drive progress this way first.

I would use inject L carnatine – 2-400mg pre training

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What is the goal of the cycle?

No harm in wanting to try a drug at all TBH -initially you could just split 100mg MWF alongside other compounds and see how you get on.

I would use tren A

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hello Peter, thank you for your prompt response.

I do approx 10k steps a day, im a single parent & full time uni student to a 1 year old so im unable to do things like fasted cardio etc as my free time is very limited. yep i can agree when im able to get to the gym i can incorporate the cardio into the end of my workout, although ive been told not to do stairs post legs?

im training on average 4/5 times a week on a bro split ( i enjoy this more than ppl as i feel i can fully push each body part to failure) and i do pride myself on training hard so that part of things isnt an issue for me.

ill take your advise. im trying to reassess how many calories /what macros i should be going with and hopefully implementing all these bits should put me in the right direction, thank you

quote quote=1237218]Firstly I would look at

How many steps your doing every day – if your not at 14-15K or more then you shouldnt be considering clen IMO.

You could also be doing cardio daily if your only doing it 3 x a week.

do you start each day with fasted cardio ?

How many days per week are you training.

There are alot of avenues that should be maximised just in terms of training and output before adding clen in.

When you do – 20-40mcg per day is a very normal starting dose and this can be ran for several weeks without the need of tapping up. You can then move to 60-80mcg and spend just as long here. I would not see a need to go higher than this.

Unless your planning on competing and even then its not something most should jump into I would not be using Anavar TBH.

However again it is your choice always – 5mg for 6-8 weeks max and then at least 8-10 weeks off.

Clen is to be taken on wake.

Var. – with meal 1 – there is an arguable benefit to taking it 90 minutes pre gym on training days.

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stairs post legs for most females is not an issue if done light IMO and burns alot of kcal.

Look at increasing steps through your daily routine – parking further away, I have a 1 yr old to and chasing her around the house or a soft play sharp raises my steps haha.

Tick all the boxes first and you will see more progress.

then potentially look at the clen once you have gotten a chunk more off

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