Hilly
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So right now in my off season at about 10% bf, would you see merit in having it in? If yes for what reason other than estrogen control and hardening?
If running a decent cycle then I see no real need for it personally.
I will use it when people are just running TRT or lower doses of overall AAS to try and increase the effectiveness of what we are using as stated before.
Only other reason is if someone really feels there libido and mood is better on it for some reason.
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Friday – 2 x 25 minute dog walks
5 meals in
Trained shoulders/arms. – tendons are back to terrible after ripping all those carpets up so session was not fun but it is what it is
Standing DB laterals – 4 x 8-10
1 arm cable laterals – 3 x 10-12
Seated DB front raises – 3 x 8-10EZ cable curls -4 x 12-15
EZ cable PD – 4 x 12-15
1 arm cable curl – 4 x 10-12
1 arm Tri PD – 4 x 10-12Every dam rep on arm stuff hurt/burned – not fun at all
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Hi Hilly, with all the peptide hype, what which would you say have the greatest impact?
Its very hard to say at this early stage.
I think the biggest impact from any of them has to be Reta – as in real world terms if you struggle to control yourself with food that stuff works amazingly and will have the greatest impact for you.
Klow blends next as that stuff is next level for recovery etc
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NAD
Mots C
SS31
would be my 3 main suggestions onto of the Klow
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Does it tend to be post meals 10am and 1pm? As his would make sense.
Your basically loading up on sugars around training and then going protein only with a tiny bit of sugar from pineapple and fibre from peas. So there is know lower longer lasting/slower digesting carbs here to maintain BG levels.
Then as Kuba says your taking drugs to improve insulin sensitivity which means your body is even more reactive to my first point and then environment you are creating.
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At 6iu I’m one hitting that , I’m taking one hit really all the way up to 12iu and then after that I’m splitting it
One hit before bed , unlikely will NEED insulin , but monitor fasting BG and run some blood work after 12 weeks to check hba1c . I highly advise using our insure with carb meals , irs insanely effective.
Agree with this
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I run it to improve free testosterone levels when the justification is there – true TRT set up, limited on how much test they can use and cant source masteron.
I also find into a show it without a doubt seems to have a hardening effect on the look and helps mos retain fullness
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I go with
Wait 4 weeks clearance time
5000iu HCG split MWF for 4 weeks – Total 20000iu
Then clomid – 100mg per day for 5 days followed by 25 days at 50mg
Tamoxifin – while running clomid – 20mg per day meal.This I have found is the simplest way of running a PCT and IME works over and over again if the HPTA is able to recover
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Thursday – Rest day
5 meals in –
2 x 25 min dog walks
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I would go 3 meals a day and as you said
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Hilly
MemberNovember 26, 2025 at 10:38 pm in reply to: Mots-c cycle or year round +proforma feedbackFrom those I know running it most seem to keep feeling the benefit both in terms of energy and insulin sensitivity but as with all you won’t know until you play it out yourself 🙂
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if you wish to stay on TRT then you will need to run
HCG – 500-1000iu 3 x a week
HMG 75iu 3 x week
Injectable L carnatine – 500mg dailynon stop until you conceive.
If you can come off and restore your own HPTA axis so all is running on its own then you won’t need any of that as sperm will come back good (presuming it was good in the first place ).
The risk with the second option is the hope you do restore your own levels etc as if not then it will of been time wasted in trying
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Fully agree with Kuba and Nathan here
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for myself and clients usually
6 weeks into cycle – 6 weeks into cruise dose. Sometimes additional if we have issues. Usually works out 4 times a year
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The cycle , food, training will be the bread and butter
If you can’t afford 5-10iu daily just save your money and spend on food,
Fully agree here
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