[Hilly]

tuesday – Trained again which wont be the normal 3 days on the bounce its just to bring the current split in line.

6 meals will go in

steps will be 12-15k

Trained back – tendons felt a little sore but nothing major.

Again all listed are hard work sets and F means stopping right before I completely fail

Overhand wide grip pull down – x 8, x 8, x 8F
chest supported row – x 6, x6, x6F
Narrow grip PD to chest – x 8, x 8, x 8F
V grip cable row – x 12, x 10, x 8F

again I trained back on sat with a client so volume was a touch lower than it will normally be and exercises selection a tad different

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[Hilly]

If that’s a ratio you made up that is working then stick with it for sure.

I see no point dropping Clen out due to half live tbh if it’s just a 1 day refeed

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[Hilly]

It really depends on what you’re wanting to do.

Is the goal to be the best as you can while on this Trt set up.

If so then as Kuba says

Gh would be great for recovery

SLU PP for endurance

Mots C – energy and focus

Glow blend for recovery

All from pro forma. No impact in terms of toxicity on the body

If your wanting to move to a cycle n really push things then tapering up the testosterone and primo would really elevate things. However more steroids means more stress / toxicity to a point based on individual response

I ask this Purely out of ignorance, would increasing the test past say 200mg have negative effects on my cardiovascular output- with blood thickness etc especially with that amount of running

I used lance Armstrong old PED cycle as a guide to base mine one?

What would you push the test and primo too?

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In my own opinion taking a small step forward likely won’t no but as with all of this it’s very individual and thus I can’t predict you’re own response.

I’ve never ever had a block n thickness issue from any dose of AAS or compound.

Only time I ever had an issue was using cardarine and had to let blood for the first and only time.

I work with some high level cyclists and none have blood thickness issues from running full cycles etc.

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[Hilly]

Monday – Busy day with Arilena today as per and this is going to get busier as we move into the summer holidays.

steps – 16k
meals in – 6

trained delts/chest – tendons again feeling better thank the lord.

All sets listed are work sets, Failure isnt to true failure but stopping when I cant get another rep. No grinding out reps etc

Standing side lateral machine – x8, 12F, x 10F, x 6F
Incline chest press machine – sets of 8 until I could not get 8 full reps and then stayed there for a set of 6
chest press machine – x 8, x 11F, x 7f, x 15F
pec dec – x 12, x 12F, x 10F, x 8F
DB laterals – x 15, x 12F, x 8F
Rope front raises – x 15F, x 11F, x 9f

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[Hilly]

Heaps of threads covering this bud for you to read up on.

Refeed signs

Performance drops hard

Weight loss stalls

0 pumps

Feeling beat up

Poor sleep

Feeling cold all the time.

Doesn’t need to be all of these either

How much is individual but in your case I’d do a rest day high day at circa 800g carbs then asses response

Thanks Peter,
I see people drop their step count during a refeed day. Should I actually be reducing mine from 15k and if I should reduce it, by how much roughly? Also, after the refeed day, what kind of scale weight change should I expect the next morning ?
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That decision is up to you. Some people simply can’t reduce steps.

Normally I’ll pull down to around 10k

Scale weight change is very very depending on what’s going on at the time with several other factors and what you see will dictate your next move.

In general you want to see the scale come up 1-3lb on average but lots of factors here. This is very generalised

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Also agree 2 is fine

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Personal preference really.

I do like to have all do a wide grip pull down and feel it’s needed for full development and gives a unique stretch effect to the back itself

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[Hilly]

Heaps of threads covering this bud for you to read up on.

Refeed signs

Performance drops hard
Weight loss stalls
0 pumps
Feeling beat up
Poor sleep
Feeling cold all the time.

Doesn’t need to be all of these either

How much is individual but in your case I’d do a rest day high day at circa 800g carbs then asses response

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[Hilly]

Leaner you get more you will grow and longer you can offseason for, try to emotionally detach and just focus on getting as lean as possible without running into a binge pattern.

If your struggling diet break for a week bring calories back up by 800 daily from carbs only , reduce output for a week and get back to work after

Send pics on insta can’t see here

Fully agree with Kuba

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[Hilly]

It really depends on what you’re wanting to do.

Is the goal to be the best as you can while on this Trt set up.

If so then as Kuba says

Gh would be great for recovery
SLU PP for endurance
Mots C – energy and focus
Glow blend for recovery

All from pro forma. No impact in terms of toxicity on the body

If your wanting to move to a cycle n really push things then tapering up the testosterone and primo would really elevate things. However more steroids means more stress / toxicity to a point based on individual response

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[Hilly]

I like justin harris approach and I find it works well for a super compensation effect on high days. Personally my own issue with it is when I use Humalog like that I feel super tired.

so I personally prefer lantus with meal 1 and then fast slin around training.

As you say its not a need your just looking at it to help push nutrient uptake and glycogen storage so additional levels. You’ll only know if its worth it when you try it 🙂

Thank you!

Would you say 5iu is a good “safe” start does for pre workout if there is about 100g carbs pre, 30intra and 100post ?

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Yes bud I would adjust the carbs and have 50 intra initially until you asses response of the set up

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I suppose that’s personal preference tho. You may be looking for a coach that does PT stuff to which changes things or simply like some one local.

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Kuba covered this very well.

The clients I’ve had in similar situations to yourself we made sure to get regular check ups done every 3 months or so to keep a very close eye on heart function and that it was improving and not declining in any way.

Close attention to blood pressure / resting HR.

Making sure every aspect was focused on the main ongoing issue n working with the specialist to do what we can our side to improve things.

Mainly I find a very slow and patient approach is always best when there are ongoing health issues.

I generally don’t see the need for a coach to be close to you. I have several clients that live locally and outside of comp prep see them no more than any other clients really.

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Bloods are back guys. Could i have some advice please 🙂

Haemoglobin 160 g/L(Range: 130 – 180)

Haematocrit 0.467 L/L (Range: 0.4 – 0.52)

Red Cell Count 4.67 10^12/L (Range: 4.4 – 6.5)

MCV 100.0 fL (Range: 80 – 100)

MCH X 34.4 pg (Range: 27 – 32)

MCHC 344 g/L (Range: 320 – 360)

RDW X 10.8 % (Range: 11.5 – 15)

White Blood Cells

White Cell Count 6.7 10^9/L (Range: 3 – 11)

Neutrophils 4.2 10^9/L (Range: 2 – 7.5)

Lymphocytes 1.57 10^9/L (Range: 1.5 – 4.5)

Monocytes 0.76 10^9/L (Range: 0.2 – 0.8)

Eosinophils 0.15 10^9/L (Range: 0 – 0.4)

Basophils 0.020 10^9/L (Range: 0 – 0.1)

Clotting Status

Platelet Count X 143 10^9/L (Range: 150 – 450)

MPV 9.5 fL (Range: 7 – 13)

Kidney Health

Urea X 11.8 mmol/L (Range: 2.5 – 7.8)

Creatinine 116 umol/L (Range: 60 – 120)

eGFR 74 ml/min/1.73m2 (Range: ≥ 60)

Liver Health

Bilirubin 6 umol/L (Range: < 22)

ALP 52 U/L (Range: 30 – 130)

ALT 44 U/L (Range: < 45)

GGT 19 U/L (Range: < 55)

Proteins

Total Protein 69 g/L (Range: 60 – 80)

Albumin 45 g/L (Range: 35 – 50)

Globulin 24 g/L (Range: 19 – 35)

SHBG X 17.6 nmol/L (Range: 18.3 – 54.1)

HbA1c 31 mMol/Mol

Cholesterol Status

Total Cholesterol 3.56 mmol/L (Range: < 5)

LDL Cholesterol 2.04 mmol/L (Range: < 3)

Non HDL Cholesterol 2.62 mmol/L (Range: < 4)

HDL Cholesterol X 0.94 mmol/L (Range: > 1)

Total Cholesterol : HDL 3.78 Ratio (Range: < 6)

Triglycerides 1.27 mmol/L

Inflammation

CRP HS 0.43 mg/L (Range: < 3)

Gout Risk

Uric Acid X 160 umol/L (Range: 200 – 430)

Iron Status

Iron 21.3 umol/L (Range: 10 – 30)

TIBC 58 umol/L (Range: 45 – 81)

UIBC 36.7 umol/L (Range: 12 – 43)

Transferrin Saturation 37 % (Range: 25 – 45)

Ferritin 130 ug/L (Range: 30 – 442)

Vitamins

Folate – Serum 18.8 nmol/L

Please note: A Folate result between 7-13 nmol/L may

indicate a possible Folate deficiency.

(Range: > 7)

Vitamin B12 – Active >150.0 pmol/L (Range: > 37.5)

Vitamin D 153 nmol/L (Range: 50 – 250)

Thyroid Hormones

TSH 2.730 mIU/L (Range: 0.27 – 4.2)

Free T3 3.3 pmol/L (Range: 3.1 – 6.8)

Free Thyroxine 14.8 pmol/L (Range: 12 – 22)

FSH X <0.3 IU/L

LH X <0.3 IU/L

Oestradiol X 264.0 pmol/L

Testosterone 22.50 nmol/L

Free Testosterone – Calc. X 0.6389 nmol/L (Range: 0.198 – 0.619)

Testosterone : Cortisol 0.069 Ratio

Free Androgen Index X 128 % (Range: 35 – 92.6)

Prolactin 188.0 mIU/L (Range: 86 – 324)

Adrenal Hormones

DHEA Sulphate 8.00 umol/L (Range: 4.34 – 12.2)

Cortisol 325 nmol/L

Cortisol Reference range

6-10am: 133 to 537 nmol/L

Midnight: <150 nmol/L

(Range: 133 – 537)

Autoimmunity

Thyroglobulin Antibodies 93.8 kIU/L (Range: 0 – 115)

Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies 27.5 kIU/L (Range: 0 – 34)

Using 6 pumps daily of testo gel 75mcg Levothryoxine. All doctor prescribed. Long story short, i dont feel myself still , mood swings , short tempered , sleep is hit and miss , i can tell my estro is high as i feel puffy some days, and nipple symptoms etc.

The medichecks doc reports says to increase Fish oils etc for low HDL ( i use 4 caps Omega Pro ATM , will up to 6).

All advice Welcome, open to using injectables if needs be. Thanks all Greg

I would as we said address this with your doc as your TRt set up needs adjusting – E2 is to high which on top of the way you feel being off your likely to hold more fluid etc.

t3 is also bottomed out – I would want to address this – upping t4 and adding some selenium to see if this helps with conversion.

omega I would increase but for most this is as good as HDL will get when on TRT.

Creatinine and urea elevation will likely be from high protein intake, creatine intake and possibly training close to bloods being drawn [/quote]Thanks hilly. Also spoke with Dave crossland who I know kuba uses , he’s reccomended me to increase my levothyroxine to 100mcg a day , add in aromosin 12.5mg 2 times per week , and add in the following supplements : Vitamin b6
Citrus bergamot 1G
Krill oil 3G
30mg zinc.
That all sound okay? [/quote]

It sounds sensible and accurate for sure. Dave is very smart and a good friend of mine.

However did you tell him your on doc prescribed trt as really you should be adjusting this with the doc to get it right [/quote]

Yes mate I have gave him all my information , diet , training , current supplements , daily life etc , presented him as much info as possible.

I have gave up with my doctors , it’s only the NHS ones, I honestly think my 4 year old lad has more knowledge than he does regarding health etc which is sad to say.

I’d rather pay and listen to people who have experience in this playing field and go from there. [/quote]
follow Daves advice then 100% 🙂

Hes very educated, has all your information and he analysed your bloods. He also looks at most of ours so no need to mix peoples inputs here thats for sure

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[Hilly]

I also fully agree with Kuba

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