[Hilly]

Agree with the above. Getting up and out of the house makes a huge difference first thing.

Also some find they feel better on less sleep.

For me I find I feel better on 6-7 hours than I do on 8 personally

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[Hilly]

Nandrolone is weird.. I never heard that it gives false results in testosterone, but read that sometimes it can show up as false elevated E2.

But last year I did some bloodwork in switzerland on 125test, 250deca.

„Testo total“ was more than double as high as expected, E2 was exactly where it should be.. thought that the deca was bunk and probably testo in it (but then E2 should have been higher as expected too..!?)

So sent a vial deca to simec – they confirmed it contains 250deca/ml..

So.. bloodwork with 19-nors.. meh

focus on the health markers and how you feel.

Nandrolone defo gives a false testosterone reading on normal tests here in the UK

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[Hilly]

Hematocrit is too high , so is ldl

I would add love heart and vital support for another 3 weeks and get those down , and then next cycle I would repeat again and not increase the dose , you don’t need to go up more yet

Fully agree with J here.

I wold however give it 6 weeks to retest bloods.

If the H number is not down potentially let blood but it should come down in general

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So I should stay on a cruise for another 6 weeks while implementing love heart and vital support and then do bloods before pushing a blast again?[/quote]
Yes imo

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[Hilly]

I’m a fan of doing this and I feel it’s effective especially post growth phase.

I call it a solidification phase. Just allows the body to set a little at the new weight from a gaining phase.

In a cut I like to slowly reverse out and not hold there

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[Hilly]

Couldn’t agree more with the above.

If it improves your sleep it’s a good thing.

Some people just need to eat further from bed time.

Especially when it’s a big meal like this

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@Hilly thanks for this info, I think this will help me too. Would Glutamine take you out of a fasted state? Just want to know whether to have it pre or post fasted cardio..

Thank you!

I don’t believe so no

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[Hilly]

It will be related to hormones for sure.

However without blood work from the time of the issues it’s impossible to tell you what the issue could be

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Monday

HIT, steps n posing done

Trained shoulders / chest – just work sets listed

6 sets of calf’s first

Upright row SS DB side laterals – x15, x 12, x 11f, x 10f

Rear pec Dec – x 10, x10, x8f

Machine press – Atlantis one caused 0 stress on pec really so will stick with this n work up – x 12, x 12, x 8 – slight pec twinge , x 14

Seated side lateral – x 12, x 12, x 10f, x21f

Seated cable chest press – x 12, x12, x10f, x6f

Hoist press – x18f, x 14f

Pretty good session

Body feels good
Digestion feels good
Mood is good

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[Hilly]

So in general AAS use does tend to decrease HDL yes.

so i would do all you can to increase this number first.

Your total fat intake an sources seem fine.

Are you doing any cardio – HIT cardio ? If not add some in

What is your current body composition like?

I would look to add in TBJP omega pro daily ASAP

Im doing cardio post workout at roughly 130-150 bpm for 10-15 minutes. I started dieting at 25-30% bodyfat and now im 5 weeks so I hadnt had a lot of time to shed lots. Im going to look into getting omega pro. [/quote]
Dropping BF down to a good range 12-15% will make a huge difference

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first bud hit the search button – there are several threads on this with loads of great information.

I would focus n building a great physique and competing yourself to a high standard as you want to work with bodybuilders showing you can and have walked the walk is vital IMO.

Work with 1-2 very good coaches, learn what they do and the service they provide so you can see what you need to deliver and learn from these people.

Invest in some solid education – college, university and some well respected courses. This IMO is vital if you want to have a long successful career. Way to many people out there trying to just blag what other coaches have had them do with little to 0 understanding of what is actually going on in the body and it does make all the difference IME both in terms of results and client retention.

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[Hilly]

If this doesn’t help then its a case of removing most things bar the basics and adding them back in 1 by 1 until you find the cause.

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Hello bud

Pineapple can be a cause of this in some so I would remove this if it seems to be stemming from that meal.

I would start each day with – AVC, warm water and 20-30g l glutamine taken on an empty stomach 30 minutes pre any food – this helps alot with clients who experience similar issues.

I would also make an effort to add spinach to meals as this can help wth the acidity of the stomach throughout the day.

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[Hilly]

in the simplest of things the total AAS load is what your looking at here.

So more drugs will mean more muscle building potential.

Adjusting the mixture of drugs means you may be improving the rate of that muscle growth to some extent and how you feel/look and perform on that mixture of drugs.

So if your using 600mg of total drugs just because part of that is 150mg NPP doesn’t mean its less effective as that ration is smaller and 150mg of NPP is better at building muscle than 150mg testosterone so doing that switch should make the total load more effective.

then using some of the total load from EQ will allow for better E2 management and increased RBC which will give more o2 and nutrient transport.

So in theory this should be more effective than just running 600mg testosterone in several ways and why we tend to choose cycles like this over just 600mg testosterone.

However this is also depending on how you react personally to each drug.

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[Hilly]

A considerable amount – Not really – depends what you class as considerable but lets say in reality your lucky to gain 10-12lb of muscle in a year and thats at the very best there is never a considerable amount to be gained in any 12 weeks never mind if on a cruise dose.

However you can certainly continue to add muscle in a cruise phase just at a slower rate to on cycle. Your body has the ability to build muscle as long as hormones are there and food is in a surplus alongside training stimulus etc all being there.

Cruise dose – usually puts us top end of normal or just over so you can build muscle due to this.
Food – if your in a surplus then you have the building blocks so to speak to build muscle.
training – as long as your adapting this to allow for additional recovery etc due to hormones being lowered.

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[Hilly]

Sunday – Rest day

All meals in no issues
Cardio was just steps including a walk this morning.

Nothing much to note – hunger is up and digestion is good

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