[Hilly]

I you have a show in 12 weeks then there is no space for a rebound/growth phase IMO.

I would be dropping down to a elevated TRT/cruise dose for 4 weeks and focusing on staying as lean as possible while building food up some what and reducing output a little.

You must focus on holding condition as best as possible alongside dropping stress etc from the prep.

You must also give yourself some additional food and try and remove any food focus so you can hit this next prep successfully and be in the best place physically and mentally.

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[Hilly]

some fantastic explanations above.

In the simplest terms its going in reverse from how you got to the end of the diet. You gradually bring food down and output up to drop bodyfat.

Now you gradually reduce output and increase food slowly to come back up while maintaining a leaner composition and add muscle.

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[Hilly]

Can only echo what jordan has said and what has been said in your other thread.

This is a clear sign your body fat is to low for you personally to maintain and you need more food.

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[Hilly]

Weight – 233 again today.

Rest day food
HIT cardio and treadmill.
Busy work day
Walk with Arilena this afternoon around a park.

all in all a good day.

Nice to be hungry Tbh lol.

Right Shoulder is still giving me Grief.
Left lat/grip issue seems to be easing up but will no more over the next 2 days

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[Hilly]

Answered this in your other thread

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[Hilly]

I have used with some clients orally – its very hard to say if it was just that which had an effect but we defo concluded it seemed to play some part.

We did 1mg orally for 2 weeks.

I can’t see it having any use for the issues tren causes at all however

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[Hilly]

You have a great physique but so well done on your hard work so far.

As J says you need to keep working on those quads as a focus.

In terms of when to compete there never is the perfect time.

for me you could do very well as a junior now depending on the show and who turns up as with any show.

The fact is you need more muscle but for the majority or your BB career this will always be the facts as that is the nature of the game.

If you are keen to compete then I would compete as a junior. In terms of which class this is simply down to were you want your physique to be long term for most. Which look do you favour and want to replicate when you watch shows etc.

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These pictures also wont load up big so i can only see so much

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[Hilly]

Your in a very good spot at 8 weeks out IMO.

I would say another 12-15lb off to be bordering on fat free but it could be more or less than this. I never like to put numbers on it myself as its impossible to say.

You just have to keep going until you get there.

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[Hilly]

I always favour more solid food in a prep when carbs get lower personally and for clients.

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[Hilly]

it really sounds like you need a little reset and mini cut before pushing on again.

I would also drop down to a cruise dose during this time and let the body reset and get healthy again.

Next time I wouldn’t use the Drol to try and aid in appetite on the way up if you feel this may be causing some issues.

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[Hilly]

It doesnt make alot of sense to me to be honest.

Why are you running the first phase for just 4 weeks?

Why are you then using both mast and primo – this could potentially crash your E2 unless you have blood work from previous cycles showing this mix keeps you in range on this dose of testosterone and again why for 5 weeks?

then the last phase is for 9 weeks – why the little bump in test to go with the NPP?

I dont like set time frames that are different and this short in the first instance.

personally I would run the 250mg test for 6-8 weeks and monitor results on this and get bloods taken to asses hormones.

Based on this and progress if you need/want to step the cycle forward and its a growth cycle I would likely add in 200-300mg primo on top and run this for for 6-8 weeks potentially longer if progress continues to be made.

Now here you could simply end the cycle and move to a cruise if progress has stalled or blood work shows the need or you are changing goal (i.e need to mini cut or body is feeling beat up). If progress is still happening you could simply sit as you are and continue to progress.

If you want to step the cycle forward again for your own reasons and try NPP you could then simply add 150mg NPP to this current dosing. You wold need to consider that your E2 may spike here however, if you have previous info that would support this a change from primo to masteron may be wise as it has a stronger AI effect than primo at the same dosing IME.

Gh seems fine.
Tel – if you have BP issues and feel its needed then it is certainly an option but I would be aiming to utilise TBJP love heart and your nutrition, body comp and fitness levels to control BP first personally.

Met I would use just 500mg unless your BG readings show the need for more.

I would prefer shots done MWF ideally also as I feel this gives a better hormone balance.

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[Hilly]

As above

The presumption from these would be the testosterone is very much under dosed and the tren is real to some extent and giving a false E2 reading

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Wed – Weight 233 –

High day today and leg day.

All meals in no issues which are now drastically lower than they were.

M1 – 125g cooked turkey with 150g cooked jasmine rice and 50g carbs from free from bread
m2 – 125g cooked turkey, 150g cooked jasmine rice and 1 muffin with around 50g carbs
Intra – 30g carbs and 30g EAA with creatine, glutamine.
M3 – PWO – 125g carbs from cereal and 30g protein from TBJP vegan protein.
m4 – 125g cooked turkey and 300g cooked jasmine rice
M5 – 40g protein from vegan protein powder and 100g carbs from potato made into chips
m6 – 125g cooked turkey and 80g carbs from free from bread and jam.

Legs
Calfs – seated – 5 x 15 reps
lay ham curl with a 2 second pause in contraction – x 10, x 10, x 10, x 10F
Extensions with with 3 second negative and a dead stop – x 12, x 12, x 12, x12, x 10F
1 leg leg press – x 15, x 15, x 15, x 12F
Hack – tried this to see how my lower back held up doing it with a 4 sec negative and 3 sec positive – x 10, x 10, x 10F – all felt good during session and no issues so far so happy here.
Seated ham curl – x 15, x 15, x 13F
1 leg leg curl – 3 sets of 8 done left leg right leg with no rest – got all 3 sets of 8
Adductor – x 20, x 20, x 16F

Good session – enjoyed it with the little changes here and there in terms of temp and exercise order.

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[Hilly]

Thanks @Hilly should I consider an ai to bring Oestradiol into range or is it acceptable?

Its impossble to say as it could be a false read

but as i think as i said based on those readings your gear doesn’t look great at all to me –

That test reading should defo be higher and if the test is under dosed id be guessing the rest aint great either if all from same lab

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