[Hilly]

What is your BP on wake day to day
what is it post leg workout?

I would say its likely to be a breathing issue if BP is fine.

Pre workouts tend to include stimulants so this could be spiking BP if its already elevated however

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[Hilly]

As long as it causes no digestion issues or BG drops then I see no issues at all personally.

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[Hilly]

Switch the oats to TBJP COR and limit them to just 1 portion a day and see if this helps.

Do you find you get the heart burn pre training or during as it may be something to do with the intra carbs if the above fix doesn’t help.

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[Hilly]

Fully agree with J here.

I see no reason to move back into a deficit. if anything you may find you drop some water and look better for it as you will of replenished some glycogen quickly.

I would just move on steady as planned into your growth period and work on controlling your food focus better – Potentially include some foods you are like or craving or set specific off plan meals at times when they will be best utilised. The night before a big leg or back session for example.

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[Hilly]

I see no issues doing so with sensible use.

I would run it for 6 weeks and then get bloods done to asses how it is effecting your E2 levels as deca plus test can cause this to increase more than the same overall dose of just test.

It would IMO be a more effective muscle building cycle than just 350mg of testosterone for sure.

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[Hilly]

Friday – Weight 234.5 – back up a little.

All meals in and a very busy work day.

I also trained with a client which was a pretty good back sessions. However the grip/bicep/lat issue still persists.

Cable pull over SS with cable row to chest – 5 sets pyramid up to a failure set. This is activation and warm up work.

Hoist pull down – done with a 3 second negative and pause in contraction – x 8, x 8, x8, x 7F
T bar row lat focused – x 12, x 12, x 11F
1 arm lat focused pull down – x 12, x 10, x 7F – focusing on connection in the left arm after the work with the biomechanics guy last week. Left arm shaking and noticeable stress on the left forearm were the lat is weak.
Seated prime row focusing on upper back – x 15, x 12, x9F tried another set but couldn’t grip it properly with left hand.

Cable shrugs – x 15, x 12, x 11F

Some posing – looking a little flat and deflated as expected after being ill for 5 days and only training twice in the last 7 days.

2moro I travel to the 2bro MK classic so early start and a long day of travel.

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[Hilly]

Are you breathing properly during sets – this can cause issues when one is training very hard if your holding your breath etc.

Also what is your BP on wake, pre and post gym?

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[Hilly]

Amazon always a good start bud or strom do one. You’ve been TRT for 6 months crack on….

My preference would be

300mg Test

100mg primo

Assess after 4-5 weeks buddy

Cheers mate, much appreciated. I was thinking a 12 week cycle 300mg test e and 100mg primo. Just out of curiosty, and I know the answer is dependant upon recovery and is subjective. What would be the optimal duration for an individual to be on cycle and TRT three months both ways?[/quote]
there really isn’t one,

When your health markers are all fine and you are physically and mentally ready to go again

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[Hilly]

I am similar to Kuba.

I would drop down to 30mcg and stay here as I monitored things and tapered up food slowly while tapering down cardio. This may be done over 4-6 weeks.

I would then Drop off once things are levelled out with your body weight and body comp at better food levels.

Sounds like you have over cooked this in terms of drug dose and kcal deficit

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[Hilly]

Go straight into a surplus, keep some level of cardio up as well, DO NOT lose that, keep that consistency going in your life, your aerobic fitness.

Have some fun with the training, I’d base it on the TBJP training programme upper lower splits that’s pretty straight forward.

Go by what you look like in the mirror, make small adjustments to diet every or every other week. Very loosely use scale weight as a guide and just maintain a level of body fat where you’re still lean, but enough body fat to train hard and life isn’t all about food focus

Fully agree

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[Hilly]

I will agree with the above – in general a training day and rest day is more than sufficient.

If having a higher day or free meal for what ever reason I wold prioritise this on a weaker body part day or leg day

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[Hilly]

If the Binge was just one day i would simply get back on plan for 7 solid days and then asses how I look and decided the next move

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[Hilly]

Clare nailed this one!

Definitely key considerations;

– maintaining GI function on a plant based diet (fibre intake is something that needs to be gradually increased over time if going fully plant based)

– using a variety of plant based food sources to facilitate ‘complete’ amino acid spectrums

– using supplemental plant based proteins and EAA’s as needed to help compliment the point above

Thank you! I’m not fully plant based though, I eat lots of dairy products. Just no meat and no eggs. [/quote]
I fully agree with the above.

Dairy tends to cause alot of issues for people to especially in higher amounts which would likely be the case for yourself.

Ultimately this type of approach is far from ideal both physique enhancement purposes and overall health IMHO.

If you are getting on fine with lots of dairy then look to greek yogurt, quark etc for higher protein contents alongside a good protein powder from TBJP

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[Hilly]

This needs to be in the training section bud 🙂

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[Hilly]

Youre really going around this the wrong way.

What are you taking? In exact doses and frequency and for how long?

have you had any bloods done?

Has this occurred before?

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