[Hilly]

There is no doubt that running injectables is better overall – In terms of health, body chemistry etc etc.

However I also understand people dont want to inject for what ever reason and I have helped potentially hundreds of people use oral only cycles with good results Including people competing.

I would not run 4 on 4 off in the prep situation.

I would just hold off until 8 weeks out and then run 30-50mg var into the show.

Your in great shape for this far out and have a fantastic physique well done on your work so far.

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[Hilly]

Why not just pull the plunger out and back load them ?

If i use proviron instead of mast,efect would be same?[/quote]
No

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[Hilly]

As above – Very normal to see this and all is good as long as she is getting leaner. This is why you are adding the drug 🙂

Increased glycogen retention, potential increase in muscle mass.

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[Hilly]

I can’t see the pics so can’t comment on progress etc

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[Hilly]

I would personally cruise on 125mg test and 50mg primo.

I would then get bloods done at week 5.

Make sure health markers are good and see were your test/e2 etc is on this cruise dose for future reference.

then if bloods are fine and all is good you can move to cycle to.

I would go back to 300mg test with 200mg primo the the first phase of the cycle and then asses if you need to increase and if so bump the primo up 100mg.

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[Hilly]

Sunday. – weight 242 – Rest day and family day today. Couple of hours work this morning while the girls napped and chilled.

Soft play with Arilena and my mum this afternoon.

All meals in.

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[Hilly]

Same using with no issues

have you used before and its been ok or is this first timing using ROHM /. Might be work changing lab as Joe said

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[Hilly]

Same as you do on cycle, this is the time where we aim to restore health markers as much as possible so here is where supps play a vital role.

Basic essentials are always vital support and loveheart, ohemaga pro or v version.

These are my go to as bare necessity for anyone using PED above physiological range.

Snap –

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[Hilly]

I gather its the higher dosed one that can sting a little.

I have never had any pain from the 200mg per ml one

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[Hilly]

When we add in drugs/make a change it can take 3-5 weeks for the body to level and normalise.

So taking them earlier than this would make no sense as it may not be an accurate reading.

We of course want to know were these drugs put our hormones so we know that they are working doing there job effectively, not causing any issues and were we may be able to manipulate things further to make more progress when we are ready.

It would be very silly to use drugs and not check what they are actually doing to your body and then just as silly to make changes without knowing were your levels are at IMO.

a long time ago this wasn’t possible due to it not being easy to get bloods tested, now it is very easy and we should be maximising this additional data to make sure all we do is as effective and healthy as possible

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[Hilly]

Great posts from Clare and Max

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[Hilly]

It depends on how your body responds to food, how much muscle you have and what your day to day output is as well as how low food actually is.

Another thing to note is how bad is hunger etc.

For me I would likely add 3-400 to training days and 200kcal to rest days in general; if you have a pretty manual job then it may be 400kcal to all days.

if you have a weak body part that needs alot of focus it may be 5-600kcal to this day.

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[Hilly]

yes of course. They will be with oil based so no issues

But i cant change needle,i got integrated with syringe,is it ok?[/quote]
Why not just pull the plunger out and back load them ?

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[Hilly]

Weight – 242lb – Check in sent to AJ

high day today. – food started a little later as I had to wait for gym to open to do check in pics so first meal wasn’t until 8:15.

All meals will go in –

Trained back with a client.

Cable Rope OH – 4 x 15 reps
Prime pull down – 4 x 8 reps – last 1 with a drop set
Chest supported row – x 15, x 12, x 8, x 15
1 arm cable row – x 12, x 12, x 12, x 8
Seated upper back prime row – 2 second pause in contraction – x 15, x 15, x 15, x 11

Job done

Busy work day
2 x first places
1 x third place
1 x 4-5 place still waiting to find out.

Not a bad Saturday outing – should of been all top 3 but The client had moves from a first timers show 4 weeks ago straight into a novice show and I tried to bring a little more fullness to this knowing he would be outsized.

We got him up 3.5kg and condition was bang on – However it slipped last few hours and midsection smoothed just a tad – We were still very good and just gave it away on size really so overall not bad.

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[Hilly]

In these set ups I prefer to use a DHT as Kuba states but alongside NPP I prefer masteron. Just seem to feel the best on it with NPP and Test.

I would be favouring

200mg test
200mg Mast
200mg NPP

No need to go straight at the 700mg.

I would run this for 6 weeks – See how I felt and get bloods done to check hormones.

Based off how I felt, looked and what those bloods done I would potentially step the NPP forward a little to 300-400mg and run for another 6-8 weeks.

I have always felt mast alongside nandrolone takes away some of the sides that can come with it and this has been documented quite a bit over the years anecdotally.

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