[Hilly]

Primo and test 500/300. Just started prep too.

Reckon I should try clomid?

I wasn’t bothered, but now could do with something a little more impressive lol

IME it will help yes but only while your using it.

If you have a search on the forum there are a few threads covering this in details with peoples personal experiences

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[Hilly]

Saturday – high day and back. Weight still 240.

All food in no issues. Training was a little later as I was at the PCA north east watching a client compete who came secon happy enough with that. We know she needs to be leaner though the lower and we know adherence early on was the reason this was not as it should of been. Hard lesson learned.

Back – No bicep pain during the session but the issue was there again and when trying to pose.

Pull overs – x 15, x 12, x 12, x 9F
1 arm HS pull down – x 12, x 12, x 10F, x 9F
Chest supported row lat focused – x 8, x 8, x 7F, x 12F
upper back chest supported row – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 9F
Mag grip reverse Pull down to chest. – x 12, x 12, x 12, x12, x 9F
Shrugs with a 2 second pause in contraction – x 15, x 15F, x 12F with a drop set

Huge pump – Felt great – having an extra meal may of been beneficial here TBH.

Posing was not great – Still can’t hit that front double properly and now some pain after in the bicep

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[Hilly]

Hi, 2 weeks after my last show

I was just running mast,tren 500 weekly , T3 T4 , anavar win

No test for 3-4 week

I actually use trt 125mg e4d of test, and re-ad hgh with my reverse diet

Blood test next week, should i take my 3 ui of gh and wait 2-3 hours before blood test ?

What is the blood test for buddy? Health markers etc? Or are you testing IGF levels?

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[Hilly]

Fantastic physique.

Looking forward to
Seeing the end result

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You should be training as hard as ever during a cut.

You may need to reduce volume in line with recovery.

Intensity and effort should never change.

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Imo you don’t need a mini cut now and could continue to grow.

However it sounds like mentally your not happy with what you see so maybe a sharp 2-4 week clean up would help you feel better when you continue to push up from here.

You look great bud. Keep up the good work

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To add prolactin – vitamin b6 – 2-400mg should bring this down n this may then reduce progesterone

However if getting no side effects or issues I wouldn’t be to worried

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[Hilly]

Firstly this is very case specific – you need to really asses if the female truly needs to take this step and have they utilised all other avenues and spent time ticking all the boxes they should be.

From here I would also opt for the lowest dose possible Var – 5mg would be my start point as im not a fan of splitting tablets and its almost impossible to source 2.5mg in general. .

Primo – I would be looking at 30-50mg weekly split into 2 injections.

From my research and experience I personally feel use should be restricted to 6-8 weeks max with the same time off unless one may be in prep and then there is potential need/justification for a little longer use with obviously longer time off post show.

The only females I have ever moved from var to primo with are ones advanced and looking to build higher levels of muscle – such as woman’s BB – wellness etc etc and never bikini. I personally just dont feel there is a need for any one looking at doing Bikini to be injecting themselves. It might sound silly and there is nothing to say its any worse than Var health wise its just always a mindset I have had personally.

Again my own personal opinion is that for those looking to compete in bikini use should really be limited to prep only unless there is justification (really lagging some were and competing at a high level and just needs the additional support to get that little bit extra)

Its more important than anything else to discuss use fully with the client and make sure you have utilised all other avenues first I must repeat this

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Agree with the boys above

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@Hilly
Can mast show up as test? Because my free testosterone is really high and shgb is low? Normal on 800test i look like a Ester bobble

Potentially your mast could be testosterone ?

what is your E2 reading – I can’t see it here?

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Just thinking out loud here

Maybe elevated growth hormone levels (from taking exogenous GH) caused an increase in somatostatin levels. Somatostatin inhibits several GI hormones that influence gut motility. So if somatostatin is elevated in response to the high levels of GH, perhaps the gut motility would decrease?

@Hilly

I guess on paper this could be a possibility.

However again I have never really heard any ones say they started using GH and had a negative impact on digestion/BM.

Maybe some of the others might of come across it but not in all my years have I ever.

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IMO you are lean enough to start growing again here

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Outline your whole diet structure for me now as it is, show me timings , food choices and weights of food . Then we can break it down ?

M1 (7:30 AM): 2 Whole Eggs (Large), 4 Egg Whites (Large), 60g Iso Whey Protein

M2 (9:30 AM): 140g Top Sirloin Beef, 10g Olive Oil

M3 (11:30 AM Pre/Intra Workout) 2 Scoops EAAS, 2 scoops cyclic dextrin/Gatorade powder

M4: 60g Iso Whey (Post-workout), 100g Oatmeal

M5 (4:00 PM): 120g Top Sirloin, 100g Jasmine Rice (Uncooked), 120g Broccoli, 80g tomatoes (sliced)

M6 (6:30 PM): 60g Iso Whey (Before Bed)[/quote]
Based on this doing some cardio/steps on waking would be better IME for fat loss.

I would reduce the whey iso to just 30g in meal 1.

Personally I would split the rice from meal 5 and have half in meal 2 and half meal 5.

i would also move the olive oil in meal 2 to meal 6 with the iso

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My first adjustment would be removing the COR from the last meal of he day .

It looks like your following a CBL approach which I have utilised and find pretty effective.

I would the if need be remove carbs from the next meal backwards – keeping carbs PWO and the next meal.

This should be more than sufficient to get you were you need to be. I wold be in no rush to make this changes tho. Make sure you see no change in your physique not just the scale for 2 weeks before a change.

I would do it Rest day first then training day next also as separate changes

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