[Hilly]

Fair few threads on this if you hit the search button for more information

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[Hilly]

Personally I would not be concerned with these numbers.

They are barely out of range n may of been escalated previously n trending down like the ALT

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[Hilly]

I would initially change the dosing to 75mg MWF

This may bring you down to top of range or close may be perfect.

From here you could then look to add primo / masteron if you want to Increase the dose n further control
Estrogen

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[Hilly]

The only way to truly know the right move is to practice it in the run up.

Get ready early then do some trial dry out runs.

See what brings the best look on wake and then what holds / improves it to stage.

So many possibilities in these situations

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[Hilly]

With those drugs in play of things are done right n adjustments made you should be able to keep progressing.

The only time this can stop is when one is getting very very lean and food is low. Like into a comp and even then you may still see progression

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Do you have any pics bud of current look

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Hey Hilly

it was taken on Snapchat so the camera hasn’t flipped it round like a usual camera would do! I started on Sunday and pin every day so less than a week into it, with only just starting would you wait or add the tamoxifen?

You gave me some good advice before starting my cycle last week, so I do plan on getting a hormone panel after 6 weeks as recommended before progressing the cycle with 1-200mg Mast would this along with the primo be enough to stop gyno from happening? Cheers Hilly

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I would be looking to reduce your work volume down in the gym – So look at total work sets and reduce this some what.

I may take 1-3 days more rest now and increase food a tad if your body comp allows it. I usually like to do this with clients at this stage before they roll into show

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[Hilly]

Bloating from what buddy?

if something your eating is bloating you then no but its a sign that you may not be digesting food correctly which could hinder nutrient uptake and thus overall results.

If its drop AAs use then it potentially could if estrogen is the cause of some bloating/water retention.

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[Hilly]

so your body comp is still pretty decent however your food is at decent level and you say you have been in this growth phase for quite a while.

I personally would maybe consider a mini cut for 4-6 weeks, refresh and then work back up. Push the mini cut quite hard and get a bit of fat off and you may see a nice little rebound and more growth while working food back up to 5k and above.

its almost impossible for us to lay all of this out for you now as it depends on how you progress, what your body comp does and what your blood work does.

I usually like to mini cut clients during a Trt phase keeping the dosing on the higher side – 200-250mg total using test and primo or test and mast depending on how estrogen sensitive they are but just test is fine also.

I would then focus on getting the most out of the least in terms of AAS use and make sure your only increasing the dose of things once you find no matter what you do with food your body comp just gets softer.

Get blood work done regularly and make sure it never drifts far at all from those good ranges. This will indicate how long to blast and cruise for.

lower carbs and higher fats can be useful for most but again this is person depending and you need to find out what works best for you over time.

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[Hilly]

hello bud

how many weeks are you into this cycle?

What I find with clients is sometimes they get some gyno sides as the hormones elevate in the first few weeks before they balance out and then the symptoms can go away so I wouldn’t worry to much or add in an AI.

I would agree with Kiera and add in 20mg Tamoxifen for a couple of weeks and then look to remove at week 4-5 and see if everything is good or ideally get some bloods done to check hormones.

Also in this picture it looks like the nipple on the right is swollen – my left when looking the screen however.

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[Hilly]

What is the main goal if the cycle?

Are you looking for mainly fat loss/recomp effect or are you trying to focus on growth here? I imagine its the first part but want to check

Personally for me I would use something like test/primo in the first part of the cycle and look to grow here and then switch to the blend the second part the cycle and drive more of a recomp effect so you finish the cycle in a leaner/more muscular state.

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[Hilly]

yes IMO it would be the best option

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[Hilly]

i agree with J. I would use the first few weeks of the cycle to let the drugs peak and get a bit of a recomp effect – maybe increase post workout food a touch to cover the increase in performance and demand.

Then increase food as is needed.

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