[Hilly]

i can’t see any pics – could you repost please

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Fully agree with max here – with my clients I tend to use a small dose of compounds we know they respond well to and dont make them hold alot of water as we drive up food and then look to hold this new weight into the cruise dose –

Obviously as long as blood work is good but I am a full believer in there is more progressive to be made than usual during this phase and have seen countless evidence personally to make me continue to use this method

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personally i would do

200mg Testosterone and 200mg primo for 8 weeks.

I would then test your bloods and see were your hormones are.

Based on this and results/current body comp I may make a simple switch from 200mg primo to 200mg masteron.

However for maximum gains and progress as well as were your estrogen is at you could add 1-200mg Masteron on top.

Its very much a case of how much muscle you carry, how lean you are trying to get and how good you want that end result to look as ultimately a little more drugs will give a better end results overall IMO and these doses are still very moderate .

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Got it, thanks for all your feedback Hilly!

my pleasure bud 🙂

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Can i ask

what you have used in the past – compounds and doses and what if any sides you noticed

Also a current picture

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if injection frequency is kept regular I see very little difference in water retention if any thing noticeable no matter the ester.

So for most beginners I feel Test E or Test c is ideal done as a minimum Monday and Thursday when dosing 3-400mg per week

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Sounds like the glute is just not some were you should be injecting TBH or you are always going in the wrong place.

I always get issues when I used to do normal glute jabs

I am a huge fan of the ventro glute with no issues at all

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Which gh was you using hillly? Are you putting the lethargy down to that buddy .

Refreshing read this with the. Ew coach etc ?

Keep it coming

Thank you bud

So it was 100% the Test base – which should of been my first thought tbh but I guess part of me didn’t want it to be with it being a new drug and not wanting to pull something without seeing what it can do to performance and physique. Typical me lol

However I havnt had any since last Wed and as of this week, weekend I feel like I am back to normal

So spoke to AJ and he wants to keep both the Sd and test base out for now – Next check in is a week Friday.

Then shall see Anh other changes

GH is Geno quick pens straight out a Turkish pharmacy

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Thanks Hilly really appreciate your response. Dr Deans protocol was what I was going to do ? how long would you press on with the protocol before deciding whether to call in a day or not? (After ceasing the protocol I mean)

6 months is the longest I would give before accepting I needed Trt personally

I did 9
Months at very low T 2 years ago when looking to conceive and it was not fun

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Looks fine to me

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As has been said a few times. Halycon should without a doubt help combat this effect.

Also taking 10-15 minutes to sit some were quite n a little dark pwo may do wonders.

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Imo
Earlier in the day or pre bed.

Not post without

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In this situation I would look at injectable L carnatine on train days

Yohimbine on rest days as Clare states

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