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Earlier in the day or pre bed.

Not post without

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In this situation I would look at injectable L carnatine on train days

Yohimbine on rest days as Clare states

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As Nathan states there is no issues running together but nothing to do with receptors

I however would bring in now and drop 10 days out.

Moving forward I would bring this in earlier next prep etc

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Yes but only in the last couple of years.

I have been using it on and off for almost a decade as have lots of people I know personally

We all now notice exactly what you are saying.

The flush etc is no different

But the next day I feel terrible to the point I simply don’t use it.

Couple of my friends say they find the nasal version much better in terms of sides for that ever reason so I need to try that

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I personally would drop the MK if you havnt already.

Just stick to natural supplements n keep doing what your doing.

Patience n hard work is all you need n you will have a fantastic physique in no time

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Thankyou zander! What is your appetite like and recovery?

I would continue to keep working hard in a growing phase. If appetite stalls then I would do a pull back, use the time to get leaner, add a little cardio in and get the body nice and responsive.

But until then I would just keep getting nice and strong in the gym. ?

my appetite is definitely up there haha, i used to not be able to eat a thing but then i stupidly took mk677 because progress stalled and i didn’t know what i was doing back then but my appetites been next level ever since

recovery is also great! de loaded last week however given i’d not done one de load so far and felt quite fatigued and now back to normal!

i’m 16 still so i’ve got lots of time haha but already getting quite strong, getting 45kg dumbells up on flat press for good clean reps now, was doing 50s but dropped down given my reps were executed very poorly[/quote]
You look fantastic bud and it seems your putting a lot of effort in and ticking a lot of boxes which is showing in your physique.

I would definitely keep going.

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Why do you wish you new why ?

I believe it’s reasonably well known he has been struggling with issues for the past 6-9 months from
What I am seeing posted.

It’s very very sad but he was on the older side still pushing to be at the very top.

That is for most never going to end well.

I think sometimes we all need to know when enough is enough. The body should not in my opinion be pushed like that as we get older and older.

Such a terrible shame.

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These are a little bit strange agreed.

However you have made it harder by changing the times thr blood was drawn from the injection.

The strange thing is

That is a pretty low estro for that set up in the growth cycle

That is a very high estro read for the cut cycle drugs

We’re both tests done IV ?

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So to confirm these bloods are 8 months post cycle

What have you been taking since then if anything as these are not great.

Did you rest before these were taken for 2-4 days

We’re you fully hydrated

Have you been taking a product like trainedbyjp vital support. If not I suggest you start asap

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Yes of course. Drugs that aromatise heavily will cause more water retention

Taking to much of certain drugs will

Certain people aromatise more than others so it is person depending.

Designing your cycle properly is key here.

In general tho

Nandrolone will hold more water

Oxy will

Higher doses of testosterone

Again this is very person and dose depending

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If blood work is fine 20 weeks is not an issue and quite common

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