[Hilly]

It is possible for E2 to be high with no sides yes.

Reasonably high E2 is IMO not a bad thing and can aid in all the things you state were positive.

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Have you checked this on different machines to confirm its accurate?

When was the last time you had bloods taken and what was RBC etc ?

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[Hilly]

I would listen to your Doctor here.

Your TSH is higher than it should be and I believe you are only young.

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Fully agree with J and Meg

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[Hilly]

Speak to your coach and explain how you feel and that you are not comfortable with the weight gain.

Its there job to work with you and make adjustments so you are comfortable and enjoying the process.

Rapid weight gain is never a good thing IMO

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Agree with Clare, its very person depending -0 you need to play about with it and find out what works best for you.

40:40:20 is a great starting place IMO

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What is your current calorie and macro intake?

How heavy are you?

What is your body comp like?

how much cardio are you doing while growing currently

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Very persona depending IME.

You may be totally fine from Test only cycles.

You may be fine from Nandrolone only.

You may be fine from a combination.

These would be the safer routes compared to using other drugs.

I havnt seen any issues from EQ in related to hair with people from what I can remember either.

Its really about trying things and seeing what works best for yourself

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Hey Hilly,

I did actually change lab from crown to Rohm, sorry I should of mentioned that probably around the 15 week mark. Is this most likely what’s caused it?

I’ve only ever missed one day max here and there but make sure I’m still doing the same weekly mg.

Work is busier but In a good way so less life stress, over 20 weeks I’ve put on around 35 pounds, last time I was at my heaviest I noticed more facial acne and thought that could of just been from the volume of food.

Thanks for the reply ?

I have had 2 clients with bad batches of crown very recently – prior to this there were under dosed batches of ROHM

So you have some potential Yo yo of hormones going on which is very likely the cause IMO and would make all the sense in the world considering this occurred at week 17 onwards – 2-3 weeks after switching the test.

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Today is chest with additional shoulders.

Cardio done on wake with stretching.

I worked 6am till 12:30 and then train.

Pec dec – 5 sets of 10 with a 2 sec pause in contraction – 30 seconds between sets.

Seated cable press – 6 sets of 8 – last 3 to failure

Seated hoist chest press – 4 x sets of 20 – last 2 to failure plus partials.

Incline cable press – 4 x 10 with a 3 second negative

Seated Atlantis Delt. – 5 x 20 reps – last set to failure plus partials.

Seated HS delt – 3 x 8 with 8 seconds between sets then a fourth set of partials

Calfs –

Seated – 4 x 15. – Each rep with a 4 second negative and and 2 second pause in contraction.

Toe press legs straight – 4 x 20 reps. – last 2 plus partials.

Job done

All food in no issues now there is no severe afternoon lethargy etc

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I forgot to update yesterday which was just a rest day. Im sure I typed it up but it must not of posted.

Again the lethargy was there mid afternoon and I had to nap and again in the evening.

so I did some reading into anything that I have changed that I so far havnt thought could be causing it.

The main change in everything is the huge addition of Beef – I always avoid as it seemed to sit heavy on my stomach and maybe eat it once every few days to in Dubai once daily.

However all this changed with Aj as he seems a big fan and I am not sometimes eating it 4 x a day and this is 200g cooked portions.

So I did some reading and it seems beef is a leading producer of Tryptophan – which can make you feel lethargic.

So today I pulled all beef out from earlier meals and would you bloody well believe it no real lethargy all day – just back to my usual self.

I then added in my usual 200g cooked grass fed beef meal 4 and boom lethargy hits 90 minutes later.

How strange I know.

So I will play about with this to confirm it really is this during this week so I can be solid with my thoughts at check in this Sat and feed it back to Aj.

See if he has come across this before with others and if it goes away or we need to make changes

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[Hilly]

Has nothing at all changed

Not the Bottle / brand of gear being used

Truthfully no change in jab days

No change in work environment

Life stress ?

Body comp changes ? Weight gain ?

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[Hilly]

I see now scientific explanation as to how this would be possible

I also can’t see a bro science theory either tbh

There shouldn’t be any local
Effect going on at all from my understanding

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