[Hilly]

What was the testosterone level ?

What is your current situation- surplus / deficit?

Current pictures?

Has it always been low

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[Hilly]

Have been on this for 6 weeks now, got bloods done last week, what prompted me to go for a more moderate approach was receiving my bloods back with 137n/mol test levels which me and the coach discussed to be on the higher side

So pointless to push this high, we are drawing to a close within 2 weeks on to trt phase for 12 weeks prior to bumping test to 200 and adding in primo

Just thought realistically what is the additional test giving me, marginal gains so very pointless, when if I respond like this then the 200/200 split would yield great enough results to milk, and would be much safer bumping primo up when needed

Yes you want the most gains with minimal use as possible. Staying healthy is the number priority, I would recommend an echo once every 2 years aswell. [/quote]

Would NPP be a better option to add down the line? Obvs just 200t and 200p for now but would 100mg NPP be beneficial to stack with for off season setting?[/quote]

Yes very much so.

I am a fan of this combination with myself and clients [/quote]

No worries, will consider for down the line

If primo is unavailable as I’m still unsure of the legitimacy of my source, would mast be 2nd best in place of? If so would I dose lower than 200?[/quote]

From what i can see you already have masteron in here so there would be no adding more of it. Mast is stronger in terms of an AI effect so wth this dose of test i would be worried for most higher mast may keep estro to low [/quote]

Sorry, I was unclear would just be test + mast + NPP or alternatively test + primo + NPP, not mast and primo together[/quote]
Both would be great combinations

Personally I favour the mast in there but have had great success with both with clients

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[Hilly]

Have been on this for 6 weeks now, got bloods done last week, what prompted me to go for a more moderate approach was receiving my bloods back with 137n/mol test levels which me and the coach discussed to be on the higher side

So pointless to push this high, we are drawing to a close within 2 weeks on to trt phase for 12 weeks prior to bumping test to 200 and adding in primo

Just thought realistically what is the additional test giving me, marginal gains so very pointless, when if I respond like this then the 200/200 split would yield great enough results to milk, and would be much safer bumping primo up when needed

Yes you want the most gains with minimal use as possible. Staying healthy is the number priority, I would recommend an echo once every 2 years aswell. [/quote]

Would NPP be a better option to add down the line? Obvs just 200t and 200p for now but would 100mg NPP be beneficial to stack with for off season setting?[/quote]

Yes very much so.

I am a fan of this combination with myself and clients [/quote]

No worries, will consider for down the line

If primo is unavailable as I’m still unsure of the legitimacy of my source, would mast be 2nd best in place of? If so would I dose lower than 200?[/quote]
From what i can see you already have masteron in here so there would be no adding more of it. Mast is stronger in terms of an AI effect so wth this dose of test i would be worried for most higher mast may keep estro to low

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[Hilly]

The drug is fantastic at its job however can be quite harsh in terms of side effects for some,

Dry skin
dry tendons
Harsh on the liver.

I know several friends that have ran it and several clients all were glad they did as it had a drastic positive effect on there skin.

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I would stick with the 200mg Test C – in reality this is just a TRT dose of test and should cause 0 stress on the body

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When would you tell your clients to take it mate and is it ran all cycle? I’ve heard it works well with npp, is this due to the water weight you may get from npp?[/quote]
TBH i usually favour masteron over this to get the same benefits as I mention above.

It works out much cheaper and comes with more of an anabolic and performance benefit over proviron

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I have taken an extra rest day today and missed arms.

HIT cardio and abs done then back to bed for 2 hours

Rest day food – Feeling very tired still but a tad better and hoping I wake better 2moro as its a high day and legs

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I would be speaking to your doctor and requesting a hormone blood test to be done

Testosterone
Estrogen
Prolactin

To rule out any issues here

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I feel good on it, have crazy pumps, I tried npp too, but it makes me anxious and couldn’t get more than 2-3 hours of sleep in.

Primo is really rare here , I don’t get it at the moment and if I do, I would safe it for contest prep.

So more a Financial thing

T3 i only take bc of my hashimoto

Thanks Kuba!

Better option would be mast

You will feel great on it but in time sides will be nasty and pretty irreversible.

No peds are safe all come with a cost, some just make you pay smaller price

T3 is prescribed ? If not I would run bloods and dose t3 and 4 based of bloods if it is replacement you are running most doctors would prescribe t4 [/quote]

Okay here in Germany it’s really common to take t3

So you would rather do masteron?

How much per week? Same like primo?[/quote]Same dosage as primo imo is a good route, as little time on as possible
I personally feel like you’ll get a lot out of that alone
Use anavar should you need it to protect perfomance
T3/4 dosage always base of bloods for best effect [/quote]

Thanks Kuba!

I decided to push things a bit and go for the next weeks with

15 mg Masteron P

15 mg EQ

Both e3d

And 2.5 mg var pre workout [/quote]

I don’t think this much is necessary for your category at all but it’s your choice.

20 mg mast would be far more than Enoch without var or eq [/quote]
I would add I do agree with kuba here but it’s personal preference

Just make sure to stay on top of how your feel health wise both physically and mentally

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Current pic after a deep tissue therapy yesterday. So today is leg day I will guys keep you updated about my exercises I do.

Feedback from my last check in, I’m fuller and everything is going well, so no changes for now, we keep the setup the same.

Quads look immense here. Great progress

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Ideally I would push you a little leaner from here as long as performance is holding well.

The leaner you can get the better

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As Jordan says this is what happens to most with subQ jabs it seems

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[Hilly]

Have been on this for 6 weeks now, got bloods done last week, what prompted me to go for a more moderate approach was receiving my bloods back with 137n/mol test levels which me and the coach discussed to be on the higher side

So pointless to push this high, we are drawing to a close within 2 weeks on to trt phase for 12 weeks prior to bumping test to 200 and adding in primo

Just thought realistically what is the additional test giving me, marginal gains so very pointless, when if I respond like this then the 200/200 split would yield great enough results to milk, and would be much safer bumping primo up when needed

Yes you want the most gains with minimal use as possible. Staying healthy is the number priority, I would recommend an echo once every 2 years aswell. [/quote]

Would NPP be a better option to add down the line? Obvs just 200t and 200p for now but would 100mg NPP be beneficial to stack with for off season setting?[/quote]
Yes very much so.

I am a fan of this combination with myself and clients

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[Hilly]

Yes. I would be likely to push training back

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