[Hilly]

I wouldnt change a dam thing here.

Your blood work is great so would make no sense in making a change IMO

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[Hilly]

do you have any pictures of your current body compositon.

What is your BP morning and night?

What does your blood work look like on cycle when you are getting these issues?

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[Hilly]

Was the Test taken IV or finger prick?

I have seen a fair few finger prick readings come back with skewed results that may be the case here.

I would be very surprised if some one had this high estro and no sides

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[Hilly]

Have you tried a different brand of hormones?

It may be that you are simply not reacting well to the way the current drug you use is made

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[Hilly]

IMO one should be doing all they can naturally to bring BP down first and foremost before adding a pharmaceutical drug.

Now its a little different if you are a high end athlete/competitor and putting your body under stress from different angles and can also benefit from the other actions this drug states as Max points out.

However as the Drug is a little bit of a fad at the moment im seeing way to many people just throwing this drug in to try and correct an issue they are causing through either poor cycle design, poor body composition or some other things being off like lack of CV health.

It looks to be a very useful drug for there reasons max points out for those that need it but many are just throwing it in when they should be addressing the issue at hand first.

Just IMO of course

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[Hilly]

Surely the issue is that you are just waiting to long to eat??

The simple fix is to eat sooner

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[Hilly]

Drop another 5-6kg IMO – or as much as you can with no loss in performance.

Then push up

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[Hilly]

in terms of just cutting a good chunk of fat off and maintaining all muscle.

300mg test and 300mg primo/mast – Check E2 at week 5 and see were you are at.

IMHO for any one under 230-240lb this is sufficient to hold all muscle and get to a very very lean state

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[Hilly]

Was meant to train shoulders today but I had some serious pain in that left bicep yesterday that didn’t go away today so choose to rest.

Busy work day

Meals as above but grass fed beef instead of the lamb

Steps 10k

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[Hilly]

Depends mainly on how hard you are hitting it and how heavy you are.

A 275lb bloke doing power walking may find steps much more demanding than a steady pedal on a seated bike for example.

I do prefer walking for me as I find on any bike I get a huge leg pump no matter the intensity and it makes it uncomfortable

But I have clients that prefer a bike.

It’s really splitting hairs for most I think n just finding what suits you best

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[Hilly]

Based on what your saying he may not need cardio.

You may be able to just monitor output.

No one can tell you when to add it.

It’s about looking at composition , food amount , progress n seeing what move is best.

His job n daily life will play into it to

I’ve had a couple clients get on stage with 0 cardio Or it reduced n reduced simply due to there genetics n job

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[Hilly]

Rest day – 10k steps

Beef / eggs / rice

Turkey / rice / Mac oil

Organic lamb / rice

Sea bass / potato in restaurant for my bday with the boys

Vegan whey / Mac oil / free from oats

Job done

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[Hilly]

Interesting. I was thinking that on such a low dose of 100mg of each I should be able to get away with it.

Hilly, do you recall what dose your clients used of each and whether there was a particular threshold that caused more sides?

This is we’re your individual response comes into play.

You may be fine with that dose and more.

I just also don’t see any need to run that combination of drugs any more tbh.

However one of my mates loves it n always runs it

You may be the same.

This is we’re no one can truly advise n you have to try it bud

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[Hilly]

So your at 130-140/100?

What is your body composition like

How much cardio are you doing ?

Are you taking any AAS ?

First move for me.

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Ordered my hibiscus tea and love heart. Should I drop the now foods blood pressure stuff or keep it in?[/quote]
I would drop that tbh n just run with this at first bud

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[Hilly]

Based on these numbers I dont think dropping down to 200mg would help.

I would drop down to 200mg and add in 200mg masteron – this should see you in a much favourable position and is better on health markers than adding in an AI as well as gains from the cycle

Would you add mast in even if I’m bulking ? [/quote]What’s bulking got to do with it ?

Your Estrogen is high. It needs fixing.

Wether your cutting or bulking that still stands.

Plus yes I would use mast in a Gaining phase also

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