[Hilly]

So now that’s I’ve already started with mast what would you recommend? Took my first shot Thursday ??

Follow your coach or find some one you trust buddy TBh

You should be confident in all your coach advises and his explanations in details or he is very much not for you IMHO

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Yes, he says that he wants my natural test to shut down before introducing it in the cycle

sound ridiculous to me this is – what was his reasoning for this?

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Cycle for those interested

750mg test
500EQ
SD – 30mg pre gym – using an inject version so it doest impact appetite like the oral seems to
Proviron 50mg daily.
Gh – not added in yet but will be 4-5iu pre gym
Insulin on high days as shown above.

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legs from AJ plan
last set to failure on each exercise – sometimes 2 sets

Extensions – 30/30 – warm ups and then 20/20/20/20/10 plus partials
Smith squats – 20/20/20/20/19
leg extensions – 20/15/12/10 – back off to 50 reps – the work sets are done super slow neg and positive
Walking lunges – 3 x failure sets
sissy squats – 100 reps over as many sets as needed which was 5

Seated ham curls – warm ups 20/20 – 12/12/9 with 2 drops – done with a slow neg and pause in contraction
1 leg standing curl – 3 sets of 10 reps with 10 partials bottom range of movement.
Lay ham curl – 3 x 15 reps – each with a 2 sec pause in contraction.

This really did destroy me – it was hard for me to keep motivated I won’t lie as I am not used to lifting such lighter weights and plodding on set after set.

However the idea here is to follow the coach I have chosen to trust and hire and see what something totally different does and that is what I am going to do.

It would be more enjoyable with some one else I feel TBH – mentally preparing for set after set when blowing out your arse is different to preparing for those all out heavy work sets were you have weights and numbers in mind you know you need to hit.

As I say this totally kicked my ass – im not sure if its purely the workout, the high day or a combination but ill see how I feel sat with another high day but training back.

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So today was legs and my first high day -The session absolutely ruined my the volume is so high – hard to get my head round such a drastic change to training but that was the whole idea.

High day includes fast slin as laid out below and it defo made me super tired. -I would and do use lantus instead of doing it this way with Humalog as I feel it doesn’t impact energy so much and you dont get this feeling but we shall see how I respond.

Meal 1 – trainedbyJP vegan whey, 100g COR, 50g gram carbs from free from bread, jam and 4iu Humalog.

meal 2 – 130g cooked chicken , 400g cooked jasmine rice and 1 banana

I was meant to train 90 minutes post this meal but due to baby it needed up being much longer and then the workouts look longer than expected so I am 1 meal down and splitting it over the last 2

Pre – EAA/performance fuel, creatine – L car, 5iu Humalog – 50g carbs
intra – EAA, performance fuel, coconut water, – 50g carbs

PWO – 1 scoop vegan whey, 150g carbs from free from cereal, 50g carbs from dates – 5iu Humalo
I then crashed out to sleep for an hour here

Meal 4 – 130g cooked chicken, 400g cooked jasmine rice, 4iu Humalog – plus 50g extra carbs to cover meal 6 being missed

Meal 5 – Vegan whey 2 scoops, 400g cooked jasmine rice plus 50g carbs to cover meal being missed.

during night – 1 scoop vegan and 80g free from oats

Total is around 6k cals and 1000g carbs – protein 380, 40g fat

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Wow Nice metabolism you have Brother, Good luck with new coach

Thank you bud

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What is sperm test saying

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@Hilly just to update you. Redid bloods; my test level is now 13,4 compared to 8 a month ago. So that is a good sign I guess ?

This is good – it is slowly getting better ?[/quote]

Thanks bud. In need for same advice here once again. Since my test is now 13,4; If i follow dr deans guidelines, i can now stop the hcg and keep going with hmg and clomid.

What would you do in this matter? Indeed drop the hcg? 2.5k iu eod is not cheap. So for my wallet it is better to drop it.

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Yes I would do this also

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Why calories are So high? Its not too much for 200 pound guy?

I didn’t right it. Have you read above that I’m now working with a coach ?

You would have to ask him

But as above. I was 250 at Xmas on just short of these kcal

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Today was a medium day meal plan – 5750kcal, 503p, 646c, 127f

1 – beef/eggs/COR/nut butter/omega pro

2 – chicken/rice/coconut oil/banana – pre gym

Intra -Trainedbyjp EAA 25g and 30g performance fuel with creatine and taurine – inject L car pre gym

PWO – 25g EAA, 1 scoop Vegan, HMB, 100g carbs from COR

4 – lamb/cooked jasmine rice – this was in a restaurant for my birthday with charl and Arilena

5 – chicken/rice/Mac oil/saurkraut

6 – beef/eggs/jasmine rice

7 – shake during the night – Trainedbyjp vegan whey and free from oats – not sure if these are going to sit right but he wants me to try so try I will.

More beef than I would usually eat again due to digestion but he has recommend some digestion things that he feels may help and if not we shall change things

thats a tonne of food! what were you eating roughly right before you pulled the plug on the diet and began working with AJ? flicked through ur log and saw you were on 4k td and 3000-3300 rd on 8th feb, what did diet end at?

Cheers

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I worked up to 5500 at 249lb pre Xmas

Then come down slowly pre dubai

Then down hard in dubai

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the simplest answer to this IMO is you opt for the training you enjoy the most that you can recover from.

As then you will hit your sessions harder , enjoy training fully and make the most progress.

In terms of low or high volume – there is no correct answer as both have been shown to build muscle anecdotally and scientifically.

Its a huge debate that will be ever ongoing IMO.

The science does in general conclude more volume is better over time for growth than less – How much seems to be person depending and also has a limit.

One of the best reviews I have seen showed 18 sets over the week was better than 9 but 30 was not significantly better than 18.

so what I would take is starting at 9 and building up to around 20 may very well be ideal based on your ability to recover and improve.

However as we know many on here have built a sit ton of muscle just using the lower side and many here and around the world have done so using the higher side.

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It needs to be taken 15-20 minutes pre food ideally.

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it drastically increased hunger.
It improved sleep
it helped drop BF

I didn’t see any effect on performance or muscle growth from what I could see and I experimented with it alot 8-10 years ago.

It will also speed up gastric emptying.

I see more use for it in a growth phase to aid in hunger that anything else if I am honest.

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Your coach should be explaining the reasoning for adding this in and why he is doing so – answering all questions you have or as Kuba states he shouldn’t be recommending it.

Ive ran 2 immensely successful mini cuts this year and last without the need for t3, just using clen and t4 plus nutrition and output.

I see no need for t3 unless one is competing or has a real hard time getting fat off or has naturally low levels due to poor conversion of t4 to t3

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