[Hilly]

Decent position for 5 weeks.

Still chunk to
Come off legs but you have the time to get that done

Could we see 1/4 turns – all 4

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Loads of threads on this going into detail.

All in one at this dose is fine.

Pre workout or pre bed imo if the goal is muscle building currently

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Hi Damo,

Sorry to hear you’re still having these issues mate.

This forum is brilliant for advice and there’s plenty of people here that can help – but honestly my advice now is to maybe stop asking what it “could be”.

Honestly bud I’m not being an arse here, but things like this can only be checked up by a medical professional. You’ve done some tests so far which all came back clear which is why I suggested it could be anxiety. This can cause high blood pressure due to a constant stressed state and, based on the fact you have posted 2 or 3 questions about the possible cause so far, it’s clear it’s really worrying you (which will likely add even more to the symptoms). This is where the vicious anxiety cycle can start. You feel anxiety, worry about what it could be, feel more anxiety, think it’s getting worse, feel more anxiety etc etc

I’ve been there mate so I know how scary this can be. Honestly bud, best bet here is back to the doctors and insist on further tests. Max’s suggestion is a great place to start. You either find out through the tests what it is or you rule something else out. The more you rule out the more it may become clear that it is indeed anxiety and you need to know the cause so you can address it. Posting for speculative suggestions on what it COULD be, in my opinion at this point, will only add to the issue.

I hope you get some answers soon buddy

Fully agree here.

Great post

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I have seen myself and clients switch to vital support from other products and watched there blood work improve.

I would be choosing this over anything else IME

Thanks Buddy.

So you would choose half dose of vital and love heart before a full dos of support Max? Is what u are saying. [/quote]

Yes but I would use full dose vital support unless I’d tested my bloods n 1/2 dose was enough for me personally

No point taking 1/2 the dose of it isn’t doing what you need is there [/quote]

Okey buddy so full dos vital and not do love heart then? [/quote]
if your blood work and BP show you need it then why would you not use it?

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Agree with the above plus niacin for LDL for sure.

Plus HIT cardio 5 x a week

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Lastly. – prolactin – 4-600mg vitamin b6 might bring this down perfectly for you

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RBC markers are a tiny bit raised but if BP is ok then I wouldn’t stress this. However taking Vital support will more than likely bring this down into range naturally.

Liver/kidneys etc all look fine – the Kidney markers are likely from higher muscle mass, higher protein intake and some potential dehydration. These markers are 9/10 always like this in people who do what we do

HDL – barely out of range but common to happen on any dose of synthetic AAS – I would make sure getting 7-10g omega pro b y Trainedbyjp but you may never see better than it currently is.

TSH is high telling us the thyroid is having to work pretty dam hard/getting alot of signalling to make more thyroid hormones – your Free t4 is ok and your free t3 is on the lower side of normal. A doctors visit may be a good idea here

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i certainly wouldnt be counting it TBH.

I monitor water as water drank only – I think this is the easiest/least stressful and most accurate way of doing so.

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Hey Hilly,

Thanks for the input. I’ll do as you advise and strive to meet prior performance.

After that time would you then begin a cut or how would you recommend proceeding after meeting prior performance? Leave nutrition at the same and continue pushing upward in strength?

Very much depends on how your physique changes and we’re you want it to go tbh

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I have seen myself and clients switch to vital support from other products and watched there blood work improve.

I would be choosing this over anything else IME

Thanks Buddy.

So you would choose half dose of vital and love heart before a full dos of support Max? Is what u are saying. [/quote]
Yes but I would use full dose vital support unless I’d tested my bloods n 1/2 dose was enough for me personally

No point taking 1/2 the dose of it isn’t doing what you need is there

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What is your sodium Intake like

What time of macro split are you on – low carbs or keto will cause more water excreted in general

I do feel urinating twice n hour every hour of the day sounds a little to much.

This only occurs to me dog end of prep when carbs n bodyfat are super low n supplements cause n increase in water pushed out the body

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I have seen myself and clients switch to vital support from other products and watched there blood work improve.

I would be choosing this over anything else IME

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Agree with Kuba

Mast would be my choice for sure

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Simply stay leaner to avoid the elevated estrogen conversion would be the obvious one here for me

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