[Hilly]

I think you could keep in 400 eq as suggested , and then also adding 50mg a day test prop , and once you feel e2 rising again which it should after a few days of the prop , you can decide on the next move , which make be changing nothing and staying on the 800 test e , 350 test p , 400 eq

Thank you guys for the help. Ill try this. Do any of you know how long it might take for the joints to feel better?

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Quicker you get E2 up the quicker they will get better. 2-6 weeks depending on how you go abt it [/quote]

Thank you! Would you still train through these joint pain issues?[/quote]

personally yes i have done and a currently doing so as have a similar issue not related to E2. Just be careful, Keep weights lower and in higher rep ranges. Try and pick exercises that are less painful [/quote]

Bloodwork shows <0.04 e2. So its lower than they can measure.

Thanks for the help guys. Im already pretty sure im feeling little better from using test P for a few days so i think ittl get better real quick.[/quote]
thats good news bud

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[Hilly]

Monday – training day – delts/chest/back

steps will be 14k plus

meals – 5

session was decent, elbow tendons still in agony but I should se improvement this week with more therapy work and what I think is the cause now being Removed.

1 arm cable lateral – x 10, x 10, x 9F, x 13F
Rope front raises – x 8. X 12F, x 10F
standing DB lateral – x 16F, x 12F
Chest press – x 10, x 10, x 10, x 8F, x 7F, x 15F – left pec and elbows till causing to many issues here so just did more volume here
1 arm HS lat focused PD – x 6, x 9F, x 6F
chest supported row – x 6, x 11F, x 7F
1 arm cable row – x 13F,

Job done – was as good as it can be while my elbow tendons especially the right continue to burn throughout

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[Hilly]

Based on this, I’d swap the presses from Tuesday’s session with the Saturday presses. That way, you get extra rest after two pec presses.

Rest looks good, it’s a case of running it an seeing how your go with recovery, progression and enjoyment. Update here as you go.

Fully agree with james here

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[Hilly]

It’s very hard to advise without pictures to see just how much tissue you may need and thus how much volume.

There is also a big individual response to this and how you respond to volume now and in the passed.

I may have some one doing 16 sets total for legs and just 6 for delts and 6 for back split 3/3 or if some one really just need a little more lat and no more upper back then 4 for lats and just 2 for upper back as an example.

If you need more delt you feel then you would up the delt volume from there, less then reduce etc etc.

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Yeah, ordered some of that! Never had an issue with rohm test e from a different source before! I have to assume the source is playing with it / diluting it. No other reason why 500ng puts me at 50nmol/l when previously Rohm at 350 puts me at 150

the only issue with blood test results when looking at testosterone is there can be a pretty big discrepancy based on how close you injected to the blood draw. If you injected the day before it can skew the result.

As make no mistake 150 is not correct from 350mg of test either

240 puts me at 45 for example currently

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Thank a lot kuba and hilly!

So by this when i will reduce food instake for cut i can remove totally lantus?

First step i think to reduce 200 cho td and 100 ntd

After i usually stay about in a carb cycling

With 3 low days at 300cho and 1 day refeed about 500cho

Last year i get in shape with this but i never use lantus before this year

I only use 10ui gh in cut

Again it’s something that is very person depending but in general yes I would remove, potentially bringing back in/keeping in on higher days based on how high your high day is.

However if your pretty lean etc then you won’t need it and its a safer move to pull it out.

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[Hilly]

Yes could be something to do with the Raw powder they are using.

Try test C would be my first move

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I do this with a fair few people end of a push phase to help improve body composition as we settle into the new high weight.

However depends how tren effects you. If not used it’s a decent time to try it.

Start at 50mg tren A per week

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[Hilly]

Heavy ish cycle

Layout and drug choice looks good

Ratio looks good if this works well for you.

Don’t see any issues overall. Personally I’d have the slin pre not post I think but that’s it

If your rolling straight into a cut and blood work is good n E2 is good no real need to change anything initially

One may switch NPP to tren

May switch GH up to spread over the day

May remove oxy for Var

May increase Adex over time.

Impossible for us to be accurate here as we don’t know you now can predict how things will progress.

Thanks!

About hgh i can split between pre bed and pre wo right?

About lantus i have to change (less) ui?[/quote]
GH is all about what makes you feel the best. Higher bolus dose Pre bed over 5iu makes me groggy n at 10iu makes a lot of people very tired.

So I split Am n pm rest days n pre bed n pre gym n pre bed training days

Lantus is all about what your BG is saying and how you feel / recover. So you need to adjust this to you.

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[Hilly]

Sunday – rest day

15k steps to be done.

Did 10 minutes jogging on treadmill plus stretching this AM which I may focus on building up n keeping in

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[Hilly]

I think you could keep in 400 eq as suggested , and then also adding 50mg a day test prop , and once you feel e2 rising again which it should after a few days of the prop , you can decide on the next move , which make be changing nothing and staying on the 800 test e , 350 test p , 400 eq

Thank you guys for the help. Ill try this. Do any of you know how long it might take for the joints to feel better?

[/quote]

Quicker you get E2 up the quicker they will get better. 2-6 weeks depending on how you go abt it [/quote]

Thank you! Would you still train through these joint pain issues?[/quote]
personally yes i have done and a currently doing so as have a similar issue not related to E2. Just be careful, Keep weights lower and in higher rep ranges. Try and pick exercises that are less painful

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[Hilly]

Saturday – 15k steps

5 meals in.

Trained Biceps/legs

Ez cable curl – x 10, x 10, x 10, x8F
1 arm machine curl – x 8, x 12F, x 9F

seated ham curls – x 8, x 15F, x 9F
1 leg extensions – x 8, x 10F, x 9f
leg press – x 10, x 10, x 8F – done with no lockout and slow solid 3 sec negative
Adductor – x 8, x 15F

Job done – no tricep work as tendon into elbow still super sore but all else was good

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[Hilly]

This is totally normal for many, pressing is usually the quickest to stall and the first to go in a deficit.

In your case doing that particular volume I would definitely look to change that up to the two sets with a bit higher reps vs the 5×5

Fully agree here. Just be patient and take a little more rest between sets.

Potentially then drop volume a touch

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I wear one from 5 am till around 11 it doesn’t have any impact on waist but it forces me to be more conscious of keeping my stomach tight and breathing through my rib cage not the stomach

This is the best benefit to them I believe.

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[Hilly]

The Joint Stack (Join In, Osteo Pro and CureComing) and Collagen supps from tbJP.

Beyond that, if budget allows and you fancy trying peptides… BPC157&TB500, AOD9604, OP3-4, VIP. You can get the first three from Proforma.

As Kam says, make sure you’re doing everything to give yourself the best chance of being comfortable on your feet.

Fully agree with James

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