[Hilly]

As Clare states its certainly not a must and there are alternatives or just simply doing more and eating less.

Trainedbyjp CV burn is a great OTC product a have most of my clients using when dieting/prep etc.

Other options would be potentially thyroid meds – t3 or t4 etc

ephedrine is common but if not getting on well with clen I would avoid tis to TBH

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[Hilly]

Weight this morning was 225.4 – look was a little fuller and felt better for sure.

Friday is a busy work today but today was ridiculous. Mainly because I must have have 8-9 clients all decide they needed to check in today instead of there agreed days earlier in the week.

Its far from ideal and I try not to let this happen but at times for clients due to work etc they may need to so its my job to manage.

i think I started at 6am and apart from an hour with the baby worked solid till 4:30 pm. My head was bouncing and now im back to doing my later work.

However it was a great day of check ins with huge progress and improvements across the board so very happy in general.

Then its just been me and Arilena tonight as charl has gone out with a friend for a meal over here.

Baby is bathed and bed and im finishing work, need to have my last meal and then bed for myself.

Legs 2moro and I am looking forward to that 🙂

Steps today – 15k or just over.

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[Hilly]

Elevated Prolactin. Take vitamin b12 twice a day or cabergoline

This is the likely potential reason

Don’t take caber imo just because you think it’s this or without trying other options first

B6 4-600mg daily

Monitor over 6 weeks

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[Hilly]

think logically – men have more muscle than woman simply because they have much more testosterone .

Test is a great muscle building drug and is the most natural to our bodies.

You will make some serious gains using test only and I have known a fair blokes over the years that have just ended up using test and increasing the dose when needed that have built some hugely impressive physiques.

Where is the best place to get this from though?[/quote]
No source posting on the board bud

Speak to bodybuilders you know it try google

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[Hilly]

Hgh would potentially be beneficial yes. Dose – I would suggest 2-3iu daily however that’s just my own opinion on it.

Not medically based

I would do some reading on tb500 for this buddy.

They are animal
Studies but it’s shown to be beneficial in this area ?

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[Hilly]

Everything looks fine to me.

There is no testosterone reading from what I can see ?

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Have you current pictures

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Hey!! Hope recovery goes well☺️ I would strongly advise cure coming, osteo pro, join in and oh mega pharma pro. Have you or do you take/looked into HGH

Thank you! I will start taking all of those soon. I’m getting an osteochondral allograft done on my knee in the next few weeks so I will be sure to take those during recovery. Is HGH something a doctor would prescribe? Ive never taken any sort of pharmaceutical compounds so unsure on what this is.[/quote]
Unless you go private n have a very very sound doctor no it’s not.

However I would highly recommend sourcing some for post surgery healing.

2iu pre bed would suffice.

Plus all kamara suggests

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[Hilly]

Sounds silly to me tbh.

I may see his angle – learn to do the core lifts properly n focus on training

However this should all be within any training

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[Hilly]

yes it can and yes you can.

Focus on keeping hormones as stable as possible.

so I would suggest splitting the dose Mon/Wed/Fri to start with

Never ever miss an inject day etc

at week 5 get a hormone panel done to check estrogen, testosterone, prolactin etc.

Asses skin and if there are any issues

if there are you can feed all this back to us and we can help

I will look in to that! So you think 350mg every week is a good start then?

Thanks for the fast answer. In Sweden its hard to get answers on this stuff. ?

/Christian [/quote]
250 or 350?

Both are fine.

I would opt for 250 in your situation to monitor any acne initially

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To person depending to give a protocol

I’ve done everything from 3 caps per day the day before the show not pulling water

To 1 cap pre bed n 1 on wake with a water taper

To every 3 hours from cutting water

Thankss!!! When you say 1 cap what is it? 500mg approx dandelion root?[/quote]
Yes. I believe that’s that they usually come in

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[Hilly]

yes it can and yes you can.

Focus on keeping hormones as stable as possible.

so I would suggest splitting the dose Mon/Wed/Fri to start with

Never ever miss an inject day etc

at week 5 get a hormone panel done to check estrogen, testosterone, prolactin etc.

Asses skin and if there are any issues

if there are you can feed all this back to us and we can help

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[Hilly]

How much weight have you lost

how low is BF now

How low is food

What doses of t3 and clen

How long have you been dieting for

any pics?

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Weight 224.4lb – So still down – high day today and this looks as below

4 eggs on 4 slices of sourdough with 1 scoop vegan Trainedbyjp whey- this was 60g carbs as there small pieces

100g cooked chicken and 300g basmati rice with 200ml fruit juice

100g cooked chicken and 300g basmati rice with with 1 pop tart

PWO – 1 scoop vegan whey, 800mg fruit juice and another pop tart

We are going for a meal soon

Pre bed will be 1 salmon fillet and 300g cooked sweet pot

Estimation – 350 carbs not including the free meal – which I won’t be pushing hard or eating junk so likely will try to guess around 100g carbs putting me at 450g.

This is 3 x my average day here and is usually were I put a refeed when people are low food but just needing a little bump up and nothing drastic

Trained back – all sets noted stopping just shy of that failure rep

Wide grip pull downs – x 8, x 8, x7

1 arm lat pull down – x 8, x 7, x15

Seated 1 arm row – x 15, x 15, x 14

upper back cable row – x 10, x 8,

Rope pull over SS rope pull to chest – 3 x 10-15 reps

cable shrugs – 4 x 10 reps with a 10 second count between sets but not letting go of the cable so tension is still on

Great pump and overall not a bad workout

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Both should be done as they are targeting different muscles due to the connection of the muscle across the knee at the gastroc but not at soleus

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