[Hilly]

yes it can and yes you can.

Focus on keeping hormones as stable as possible.

so I would suggest splitting the dose Mon/Wed/Fri to start with

Never ever miss an inject day etc

at week 5 get a hormone panel done to check estrogen, testosterone, prolactin etc.

Asses skin and if there are any issues

if there are you can feed all this back to us and we can help

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How much weight have you lost

how low is BF now

How low is food

What doses of t3 and clen

How long have you been dieting for

any pics?

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Weight 224.4lb – So still down – high day today and this looks as below

4 eggs on 4 slices of sourdough with 1 scoop vegan Trainedbyjp whey- this was 60g carbs as there small pieces

100g cooked chicken and 300g basmati rice with 200ml fruit juice

100g cooked chicken and 300g basmati rice with with 1 pop tart

PWO – 1 scoop vegan whey, 800mg fruit juice and another pop tart

We are going for a meal soon

Pre bed will be 1 salmon fillet and 300g cooked sweet pot

Estimation – 350 carbs not including the free meal – which I won’t be pushing hard or eating junk so likely will try to guess around 100g carbs putting me at 450g.

This is 3 x my average day here and is usually were I put a refeed when people are low food but just needing a little bump up and nothing drastic

Trained back – all sets noted stopping just shy of that failure rep

Wide grip pull downs – x 8, x 8, x7

1 arm lat pull down – x 8, x 7, x15

Seated 1 arm row – x 15, x 15, x 14

upper back cable row – x 10, x 8,

Rope pull over SS rope pull to chest – 3 x 10-15 reps

cable shrugs – 4 x 10 reps with a 10 second count between sets but not letting go of the cable so tension is still on

Great pump and overall not a bad workout

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Both should be done as they are targeting different muscles due to the connection of the muscle across the knee at the gastroc but not at soleus

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To person depending to give a protocol

I’ve done everything from 3 caps per day the day before the show not pulling water

To 1 cap pre bed n 1 on wake with a water taper

To every 3 hours from cutting water

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I can’t see it being an issue at all personally

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What is the goal currently

For me 2iu is more of a health focused dose. You will get some benefits but 3/4iu would be better imho.

If your cutting then 2iu pre cardio will have done benefit to fat loss

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No issues doing what you are doing tbh.

I would add a fat source – nut butter / sunflower seeds , macadamia oil

You could also use oats instead of the banana or a bagel etc.

Plenty prefer to do this either due to schedule or lack of hungry on a morning

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Totally fine to mix oil based products in the same syringe bud

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You need to focus on getting close to 10% Imo for the best gains from he growth phase.

Sounds like you are already at the bottom end food wise – What is your daily steps.

what are you currently running drugs/supplements wise?

Are you having any off plan food and if so how regular and what.

I also fully agree with max this jump will just get you fat quick.

Start with 500kcal addition and work up from there slowly Imo for best results based ono progress and body comp changes.

Thanks Hilly. Hope you are well.
I agree. 10% has been a goal for me. I have never been that lean before. Always been on the fluffy side since I was a little kid. Even my current body composition is as good as it has ever been.
Would you recommend me going on a cruise for as long as its needed for me to reach that 10% or should I try to get to 10% within my 10 week timeframe before I start my bulking cycle?
My daily steps sits at around 5000 steps. And then you can add 2 x 30 mins of cardio on top of that.
I do have off plan food yes on saturdays. Which is semi-calculated into my diet. It’s usually some meat like pork-chops or fish with mashed potato and some gravy with my familiy on saturday evening, some ice cream for desert and when I get home that evening I usually have some chocholate. Having this mental I feel really helps me adhere to me diet rest of the week. My thought process is to be low enough on the weekdays to have room for an extra treat on saturday evenings.
Currently I take 125mgs of Test C and 125 mgs of EQ a week. I went off cycle 4 weeks ago where I can 12 weeks of 437 grams of Test P and 350 grams of Tren. The Tren really helped on losing some fat. At the end of that cycle my bodyweight was 94kg. And currently at 91.5 Kgs. Some of that could be water from the Test that is no longer there I guess.
I assume my “set point” of my maintainance level for my calorie intake has gone down because I have dieted for so long, so by gradually increasing it I will raise the maintainance level right? ?
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So personally i would up your steps to 8k daily.

I would switch the current drug set up to 150mg test and 100mg primo – I would not be using Eq in a cruise phase.

IMO you can hit 10% on these drugs no issues without risk of muscle loss for most.

You do not want to drop food any lower but have ample room to drive fat loss through output as yours is drastically low.

I would include high carb days potentially once per week were you double carbs to start with.

there should be no issues hitting 10% here if done right and then move to a growth phase

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@Hilly hi Hilly,

Just got some L carn. Any advice on time to take it? Like am/pm, fasted? Or does it not matter.

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@Hilly Thanks once again for the reply bud. How long did it took u once starting L-carintite before it reflected a positive result in motility? Also, it is giving me quite some pain when injecting it. Did u also experienced this?

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the brand i used at no pain – it was savage supplements 200mg per ml.

I tested after 10-12 weeks as I always did when I added something.

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Rest day today
Cardio and stretching plus abs

Worked this morning and then had some time around the pool at lunch with charl and arilena before I got back to work.

I have felt drained/almost depleted today so checked my weight at 6pm and I was 224.8lb which is 3lb less than Mondays weight and that’s PM so for what ever reason a big drop and explains the feeling.

I added in 100g carbs from Rye bread to my last meal and am going to up carbs for the next 2 days by double – my food has just been 2 low with the output and heat etc. I new I was running it fine being that low but my metabolism is obviously much faster than it was when I was hear a year ago which is expected and an over sight by myself – its just 2 easy to eat less here

Rested and did no extra steps to they were 8k today.

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Hi Hilly,

My apologies. Yes, the goal is growth as it’s the start of my off season.

Ok thanks for the advice in regards to the Nolva and Aromasin.

If I start getting issues I will get a test from MediCheck to see where my estrogen is at.

Would you recommend a specific test “bundle” or just an estrogen related one?

Thanks again!

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