[Hilly]

What was the last cycle?

Did you get a hormone check to see what was out and the potential cause of the lump ?

what is your current cycle?

Have you had a hormone test done on cycle to see what is happening here.

As it may simply be the drugs you are choosing causing the issue due to the way your body reacts to them

Hey Hilly! The latest cycle was like 525 test / week and 200 mast.

It always worked perfectly for me without AI and I also took bloods on like 400 test 200 mast where estrogen was in the upper range. So when I progressed my cycle from 400 to like 525 I felt the lump after 2-3 weeks.

My cycle now is 200 test 200 mast and 300 npp. I chose that in order to keep estrogen lower compared to the cycle before . So that’s why my question is if it’s sufficient to just keep estrogen in range. Have been on these cycle now for 3 weeks and will check bloods soon to see where estrogen is.[/quote]
Your issue may be here is that we find when taking test and deca (NPP ) you tend to find an even higher spike in estrogen due to the ay the drugs react.

So I would suggest for some one in your situation to drop the NPP and see how things look on 200/200 – Test and mast.

This will prevent it from getting bigger and it may even reduce with time if you keep estrogen in check and mid range.

If hormones look good on this mix then you could potentially look to increase to 300/300 and repeat the process

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[Hilly]

 

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[Hilly]

For myself I strive to achieve the best version of me I can in any aspect of my life – my physique, my business, now being a father.

I make sure I do all I can to get to were I want to be in each aspect. Were that leaves me is were it leaves me but as long as I am doing all I can then I am happy with that.

I think it would be far greater of a fear for myself to know I only half assed something and wasnt happy with where I ended up than knowing I did everything in my power to achieve the most I can personally.

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[Hilly]

There are 2 different points in your post I see.

the first has BB turned into a popularity contest – for a lot yes it seems IMHO and there are Many that are now into it simply for instagram etc and not for the love of training hard and creating an awesome physique. However this effect has been seen not just in BB but in all walks of life IMO.

Judging – this is potentially going to happen but dont be fooled to think peoples popularity and how much they are known / liked has not influenced judging well before social media was around.

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[Hilly]

I ran t400 and decca maybe 2 year ago, and thats what started the gyno. All I’ve taken in the past is half a tab adex every other day to control it, this time round it didn’t seem to do much. Maybe I should’ve added some tamoxifen instead of gettin straight onto letrozole.

sounds like you are sensitive to estrogen and this combination of drugs is just not for you.

Look to use something like test/primo or test masteron and monitor Hormone levels via bloodwork to determine what doses are best for you to prevent the issue occurring

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[Hilly]

Perhaps showing your wife and her mum the ingredients of the JP pre workout products.

You don’t need them to be a great bodybuilder…I know it’s makes you feel great but can definitely get a lot from a coffee also!

Great idea from Meg.

Ask your wife what are the products she is concerned about and why?

Look to see if her concerns re justified or if there are products available without them. For example Trainedbyjp pump has no stimulants in.

However how much coffee are you drinking? I would be having a personal debate that if I drink enough that I dont feel the effect would cutting this out not be more beneficial by reducing the load of stimulant your having over a pre workout?

To add to the above if your meal plan and mental preparation is correct then a pre workout is without a doubt not needed to have a fantastic workout and create a great physique.

Using things like coconut water, sea salt, Trainedbyjp creatine would be a create way to maximise performance in the gym on its own IMO

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[Hilly]

Based on your post I would suggest bringing food up to maintenance if its not already there and monitoring things closely to maintain condition.

In terms of adherence this is very individual – make sure meals are packed out with lots of veg/salad and choose foods that give you more bang for your buck so to speak.

Lean protein sources you can add edible fat to for macros –
Choosing rice/potato/oats as carb sources if they digest well helps a lot IMO.

Avoid shakes and try to eat all whole foods.

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[Hilly]

Next time try and use vitamin b6 if the issue arises again as it is quite effective and much less harsh than Caber.

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[Hilly]

Rest day today, Weight 234lb

Cardio was 40 minutes on wake.

couple of hours work and then day with Arilena and charl who is still not feeling well bless her so lots of baby time fr me today which as always makes my day.

Food – still 4000kcal on T days and between 3000-3300kcal on r days.

Weight is holding steady it seems at around 234-235 –

Dnp was dropped a few days again and instantly feel a little reduction in heat and also no Lul mid afternoon (unless baby has had a bad night which is regular lol\0

Back 2moro.

just finalising things for the trip to Dubai sunday.

Very excited for that

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[Hilly]

Facts are you do not need any fancy kit to create a fantastic physique – IMO there is no debate here.

However from your post it sounds like your a bit fed up of your current set up so IMO a change would be a very good thing

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[Hilly]

I am a fine, Something I like to put in later in a workout as I find they hit both the traps and medial felt pretty well.

I prefer to do them on a cable.

Not something I would be focusing on a progression only type approach as there is risk for injury I feel however

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[Hilly]

A quick google shows this is actually a medical condition called ‘Yellow tongue’

I would speak to your Doctor bud

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[Hilly]

What was the last cycle?

Did you get a hormone check to see what was out and the potential cause of the lump ?

what is your current cycle?

Have you had a hormone test done on cycle to see what is happening here.

As it may simply be the drugs you are choosing causing the issue due to the way your body reacts to them

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[Hilly]

Both IMO.

Put yourself in a 250kcal deficit and start tracking steps – Add in a morning work of 30 minutes and set a step goal of say 8-10k

See what happens and then adjust over time

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[Hilly]

The above information is vital for us to help.

As I dont feel this is normal to be happening every leg workout TBH

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