[Hilly]

Lots of good points by max.

The key things I usually find/see in these situations.

clients not starting lean enough so they dont see the progress they make and get fat to quick.

They are not training correctly or hard enough.

Ultimately everyone has to respond to gear. Some may better than others and some will digest food better, recover from training better and simply grow better.

However physiologically every one will get better if there doing everything right.

So something is not been done correctly IMO

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[Hilly]

Weight 234.5lb

Rest day n daddy duties all day

Work n watch dancing fruit

Couldn’t go out as weather sucks

Bloods in morning then legs

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[Hilly]

What I do straight of with my digestion focused clients is run an exclusion diet approach.

You stick to the following foods as they are the least likely to cause any issues/inflammation etc

white rice

White fish

turkey

A good olive oil for fat

spinach for veg wilted down.

Higher dose L glutamine in warm water on wake – 20-30g daily

Usual salt on meals.

I would run this for 3-5 weeks minimum and see if things clear up – Usual at this stage you are able to see if its food related or potentially something else.

I would then be looking to add in sauerkraut and a very good digestive tablet like Digest gold

If this does help then its a case of adding in foods one by one or food types and seeing what causes a flare up.

If there is no improvement then take all of the documented information to your doctor and discuss getting camera checks and samples taken from inside the stomach etc to see what is going on.

They may also run certain checks to tell if there are any gastric transit issues.

With these issues there are never quick fixes and its not easy to find the issue and it really needs a lot of effort form your side as the NHS tend to take a lot of time and dont seem to be the best at finding out issues IME

Really appreciate that reply mate will switch all foods to them as of today!

Should I stay away from whey iso? And also performance fuel and EAAs aswell?[/quote]
I would remove all initially

Then re add in like food n document

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[Hilly]

I would go and discuss with you Doctor bud, I have never experienced or seen this with others

Just discussed with my doctor today.. he said i have no reason to be concerned.. he said it’s just too much oil in a too short period of time and too many pins in the quad.. it’s oil + blood .. all these pins caused many scars on my muscle and made oil harder to be absorbed.. i have to wait a few weeks until i can pin my quad again.. and to inject it less often and no more than 1ml per shot.. nothing to be concerned about but i have to be more careful[/quote]
Great news then.

Check spotinjection.com for different site areas to use

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[Hilly]

Have you seen good progress with what you are doing?

Have you been progressing?

If all is good then I wouldn’t make a drastic change but I would be altering working volume during prep to make sure performance holds and recovery is good.

You either need to work with your coach, give the proper feedback and trust him or decide you dont and change IMO

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[Hilly]

in these situations I go with the weaker side first – I work on improving this and just matching numbers on the stronger side to make sure imbalances are not created and the discrepancy doesn’t stay the same

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[Hilly]

What I do straight of with my digestion focused clients is run an exclusion diet approach.

You stick to the following foods as they are the least likely to cause any issues/inflammation etc

white rice
White fish
turkey
A good olive oil for fat
spinach for veg wilted down.

Higher dose L glutamine in warm water on wake – 20-30g daily

Usual salt on meals.

I would run this for 3-5 weeks minimum and see if things clear up – Usual at this stage you are able to see if its food related or potentially something else.

I would then be looking to add in sauerkraut and a very good digestive tablet like Digest gold

If this does help then its a case of adding in foods one by one or food types and seeing what causes a flare up.

If there is no improvement then take all of the documented information to your doctor and discuss getting camera checks and samples taken from inside the stomach etc to see what is going on.

They may also run certain checks to tell if there are any gastric transit issues.

With these issues there are never quick fixes and its not easy to find the issue and it really needs a lot of effort form your side as the NHS tend to take a lot of time and dont seem to be the best at finding out issues IME

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[Hilly]

I would go and discuss with you Doctor bud, I have never experienced or seen this with others

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[Hilly]

Do you work nights ?

Why are you out etc during the night ?

Are you trying to sleep during the day for a night shift ?

Ultimately unless you wake up later on and get your body accustomed to being up later you are likely going to feel tired around this time if that is your normal bed time.

if you usually go to bed around 10-11pm and wake at say 6-7am but then one night decide to stay up late there isn’t much you can do IME to prevent an energy dip on these nights are use some form of energy drink or similar but then this may impact sleep and recovery.

The best approach I think would be to try and get more sleep the night before if you no your going to be up late the following night

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[Hilly]

Its individual buddy – On what you feel and perform best with

A lot prefer a lower fat approach – some dont.

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[Hilly]

This seems very odd bud. How long have you been running this cycle?

I have not come across anyone with this sort of issue with primo but its no doubt possible.

Are you sure this is real primo and not EQ as alot of labs tend to do this…

Have you tried to lower the dosage to see if you feel better?

Think I’m gonna stop it just not sure what to replace it with now maybe NPP ? [/quote]

Npp would be worse

Real primo doesn’t cause the above

Your primo is bunk [/quote]
Agreed

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[Hilly]

In my experience the primo will have lesser of an AI effect than the EQ but I feel it would have a better effect on the overall physique.

So if Estrogen will be fine on this cycle with the primo or you may be using an AI then the primo IMO would give a better end result look

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[Hilly]

I think it depends on the whole cycle more so than the individual compound.

I find for a cutting cycle 3-500mg is more than enough and would only be going the higher end or a little over if I was favouring a lower dose test cycle for what ever reason

Unless you were looking for estrogen control effect from the drug more so than its other benefits and then you may run it higher alongside a higher dose of test like I have been doing currently

In a usual cutting cycle I find 3-400mg more than enough with similar Test dose

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[Hilly]

I agree with the above sounds like you need to research more buddy

Have you watched the Educational videos on this site?

have you searched the forum for the threads on this.

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[Hilly]

I think a good estimate is between 70-80 on average from the bloods self and Jordan have seen from 300mg Test –

But there is also individual basis to this

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