[Hilly]

so yes essentially, all thats required is to activate the androgen recpetor, all anabolics via lock and key binding satisfy this need. – think of anabolics as all being a key that is the same shape that fits a lock, – but each key is made of a different material (gold, iron, silver ect for example) – its the shape not the material that matters.
now in reality, there are some other factors to think about that can help swing the balance of muscle building – certainly the direct strength increasing effects some hormones have than others. more mechanical tension – more potential muscle gain also The ability of some hormones to aromatise in to estrogen vs others – as estrogen is mightly important also for muscle protein sythesis. And also aother effects such as anti-glucocorticoid which tren has a big impact.
So its not so straight forward. – But what I will say is that you will not notice a huge difference, if you did muscle biopsies and compared physical muscle cell increaes between them, people are very easily fooled into thinking water weight ect is muscle growth – and would therefore claim 1000mg of testosterone builds more muscle than the same mg of primo

Fantastic post.

I think the only addition which really is included in this is how one feels and functions on the drugs – If you experience more hormone swings etc from 1 compound over another then you will get more issues and thus likely to progress as well.

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[Hilly]

Test level is super high

How was the blood drawn

How close to the last injection were the bloods drawn

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[Hilly]

Get leaner as Kiera suggests would be the best path. It is strange that your test is low and getting this so waiting for the hormone results is defo best option

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Thanks for the answer. I recently did a blood test and it was good. I don’t think my AI is fake because i had some ”itchy” nippels and that disapeared when i started with aromasin from the brand deus medical. I Will also start with love heart from JP, got it yesterday. Is there any way for me to burn fat while still gaining muscle? I really need to put size on now before my competition[/quote]

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Seems some quite big jumps for your age IMO

Can we see some pics please – If your a dam big and lean/jacked 19 yr old competitive lad then I may see some justification if not then I feel your jumping the gun

If the above doesn’t apply.

Re run the 400mg test if it was a great cycle or 300 test and 200 primo

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[Hilly]

Weight held at 235

Cardio done
little lower work load on Tuesdays so more time with baby

Trained shoulders/chest

Seated side lateral – x9, x 8, x 8 – Getting heavier
Rope front raise – x8, x 10, x 11 – Getting heavier
Seated side lateral Atlantis – x 20, 14, 11 – Same weight – need to strap into this as wrist hurts
Rear delts – x 10, x 10, x 11. -Getting heavier

Seated cable press – x 20, x 16, x 13, x 10 – Same weight
Incline cable près – x8, x8, x11 – Getting heavier
hoist press machine – x 20, x 18 – Same weight

Everything still stopping 1 rep shy of failure

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For me in this situation I would just be avoiding NPP like Haider says.

However another option would be to drop the Test down to 150mg – NPP to 150mg and re asses

Yeah I think I’m going to have to drop the NPP if I’m honest. Any other suggestions on what to swap it with apart from primo? [/quote]

What’s the goal bud. Quite relevant to drug selection [/quote]

In a growing phase at the moment. [/quote]
I would just run test and mast.

Bump
The test and mast to 400/400 if you want to keep dosing the same.

Re asses in 5-6 weeks.

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[Hilly]

For me in this situation I would just be avoiding NPP like Haider says.

However another option would be to drop the Test down to 150mg – NPP to 150mg and re asses

Yeah I think I’m going to have to drop the NPP if I’m honest. Any other suggestions on what to swap it with apart from primo? [/quote]
What’s the goal bud. Quite relevant to drug selection

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Found it

@jordan may have access to the full study. I can’t seem to find it / don’t have access

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8574271/

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[Hilly]

There is actually a study some were showing anavar use helped decrease SubQ fat more so than both test E and Deca use

Showing it has mechanisms that potentially reduce BF more directly than other steroids.

Been a long time since I looked at it but I’ll dig it out.

Likely due to lack of estro conversion etc but there could be other things at play to.

I never read it in its entirety when younger

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Hello bud.

Vitamin b6 at 400mg should help bring this in range.

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For me in this situation I would just be avoiding NPP like Haider says.

However another option would be to drop the Test down to 150mg – NPP to 150mg and re asses

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[Hilly]

I can’t see any results bud could you try again please

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