[Hilly]

 

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. Great for peace of mind [/quote]
What I am here for 🙂

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[Hilly]

Its impossible to give you an exact answer.

What was the cycle over 4 weeks

How old are you?

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[Hilly]

Have you tried the search option ?

This is covered in great depth.

In your case I would be going 150 test. , 75 primo to 100 primo n access blood work in 5 weeks

Thanks. Yes I looked around and saw the preferences here are mast or primo. The point of avoiding primo was to avoid extra DHT sides…you think it’s not a major concern over say test or nandrolone then?[/quote]
I have never notices any one report issues on low doses of either in all my time TBH.

I would not use nandrolone personally. It causes a higher estro conversion with test so makes no sense based on this alone to me

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[Hilly]

Today was a rest day as had to take mum Hospital to check wound and how we are cleaning.dressing it etc is going.

All food in
Work done
Cardio done

Weight was 235 on wake so a new low.

Look is leaner and improved.

Heat more noticeable last 2-3 days when I am in a warm environment if that makes sense. So holding the baby for a while or if she falls asleep on my knee I get warmer than normal.

Nothing else to note.

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It certainly used to be bud and a lot of the Chinese generics can be.

There were 2 diff guys making it who had been business partners then split was one story n there was a different website linked

But it was very much agreed on across the board then there was a huge variation from batches to batches.

Now this was a while ago as I say but it’s been gd enough reason for me to not use.

I’m a fan of meditrope generics and is only stuff I’ve used the last 2 years.

Although some still reported they thought they felt a diff with recent batches I did not.

Difficult area without getting stuff tested

I could maybe try it and see how I feel off it. Again, it’s a hard one unless getting it tested. It’s 150 for this which I didn’t think was too bad and it’s not like a huge sum to loose if it does jack shit to me haha so maybe I’ll try it and see. I’m struggling massively with my shoulder injury and this morning so maybe I’ll try it a little earlier than 6 weeks as I think a voice note of your I’ve heard said it’ll help with injury and recovery so maybe just get some ASAP as this morning I’m in a bit of pain. Maybe it’ll help like. Thanks for your reply mate always a massive help [/quote]
Yes it certainly could help with the issue n recovery

However imo get yourself to a good chiropractor

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Personally I would avoid.

It’s been around a decade and seems to always have a huge variance in batches.

You’ll get a good one then a bad one.

I used on n off several years ago until I learnt this was a common thing they seemed to do.

So it’s a real hit at miss sort of thing then mate? It’s pretty cheap too tbf for usual price of growth. It was for me and my lass to share she wanted to try it for the skin sleep hair etc benifts at 1iu a day and I was gonna run 2iu when I start cut in 6 weeks just as an extra boost. I’ve 2 mates using it at the moment so I’ll see how they look/feel off it. But I’ll see what else I can get hold of. Cheers for that pal[/quote]
It certainly used to be bud and a lot of the Chinese generics can be.

There were 2 diff guys making it who had been business partners then split was one story n there was a different website linked

But it was very much agreed on across the board then there was a huge variation from batches to batches.

Now this was a while ago as I say but it’s been gd enough reason for me to not use.

I’m a fan of meditrope generics and is only stuff I’ve used the last 2 years.

Although some still reported they thought they felt a diff with recent batches I did not.

Difficult area without getting stuff tested

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[Hilly]

Personally I would avoid.

It’s been around a decade and seems to always have a huge variance in batches.

You’ll get a good one then a bad one.

I used on n off several years ago until I learnt this was a common thing they seemed to do.

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[Hilly]

Have you tried the search option ?

This is covered in great depth.

In your case I would be going 150 test. , 75 primo to 100 primo n access blood work in 5 weeks

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I am a fan of making sure a first cycle has enough bang for the buck so to speak that its warranted doing so.

if your Trt is 100-150mg then I see going to 200-250mg to small of an increment and would want to see some one going to 3-400mg of total compound.

I would agree with max and say I would opt for this to be 250mg test and 150mg mast or primo personally

There is a trend at the moment of people suggesting very very low dose start cycles and tiny increments which is the utmost safest way to do things of course.

Its also the slowest method possible for growth and I feel it doesn’t make sense when we know people want results they can see quicker and doing this slightly higher dose will have in realty no more significant stress on health.

There is also the point I dont know any one of any great size/physique that just did 200-250mg for there first cycle because people that choose to do these things tend to want to see the results they are after sooner rather than later.

You can debate both sides of course – this is just my opinion 🙂

So in your case I would be choosing 300mg and doing 200mg test and 100mg primo personally

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thank’s for your feedback:)

@Hilly would you add another supp in my health stack? or is it good to go?

Funds allowing I agree with max

Also depending on veg intake I am a huge fan of greens supplements like veggie mite and they are very cheap.

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I believe Doctors do not get concerned until you are 140/90 plus

However I fully agree with max, We should all be striving to be in the 120’s over 80’s always no matter if we train/dont train etc etc.

Simply for overall health and longevity

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[Hilly]

Yeh I can’t see anything either bud

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As above I would look to split my dose MWF snd see if this bring estro down – It seems you are more sensitive than others.

I would let blood

I would add in Trainedbyjp Vital support

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