[Hilly]

Thank you all for your advice and feedback!

Huge help ☺️ I think it’s best I commit for a further 6-8 weeks ??

I would agree and think this is the best move as the others say

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Check the pct thread under health section n Dr deans PCT protocol

You need any were from 8-16 weeks for full recovery and this ideally needs to be checked 2-3 weeks all pct meds being stopped

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Have you been using the Anadrol for all 11 weeks so far? I would see that as more of an issue than the deca.

Yes I have should I drop the anadrol as well?[/quote]
That is not a good idea imo nor needed

Drop both anadrol and deca

Make sure you do a full blood test post cycle to check health markers

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12.5 aromasin Monday n Thursday

Shoujd sort this out

I don’t feel injection frequency or another compound woujd have the effect you want

However before all of this

Are you getting any high estro sides ?

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Thank you so much @Hilly !

I really appreciate it!

Good that i was only 1 week in this cycle so i didnt feel any suppresion yet… Now back to trt + fertility and may god be with us?

I used some nolvadex to combat gyno under the fertility prossess amd i saw a big improvement on the sperm.. i dont know if it was just my imagination but felt it reallly helped someway… Is it ok if i keep using some (20mg) couple of times per week with the other injections? Felt much better on nolva than clomid for sure!

Nolva shouldn’t have an effect on sperm from
What I know.

That doesn’t mean it won’t

Just do
What you did before imo.

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Imo

300 test
200 primo

Is more than sufficient based in your current physique/ age

You really want to milk the most out of the least

This is of course just my opinion

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If the body recovers naturally then of course it’s silly to take pct meds

Has he ran bloods to see if he’s recovered?

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Hello my Friends

Unfortunatelly we missed the baby today at 9 weeks mark….

I cant describe how heartbreaking it was seeing my wife crying in so much pain…

Now back home very confused with everything..

1 week ago doc gave us the green light that everything was ok as the embryo had heartbeat, and today all of sudden it stopped beating from nowhere…

The thing is that i started my planned recomp last week consisting of npp at 450mg/ test amd mast/300mmg each…

So one week in and i dont feel any testicular changes/atrophy yet.. dropped hcg/hmg as i didt feel the need for them after the doc confirmed last week…

What should i do now? Keep on with the cycle? Back off to trt +hcg+hmg? Get off from everything?

Im so confused, cant think clear atm

First I am so sorry to hear this. I can’t imagine how you feel right now.

My first thought would be to get a sperm test done immediately and if it’s still good get some frozen just incase as a back up.

Then i am presuming you will be trying again soon. If so I would recommend going back to the protocol that was successful.

These things happen and I had no idea how often they did until we started trying and I spoke to others who had gone through so many different situations and heart break like this.

A very close friend of mine has been trying for years and had some failed attempts but is now very close to the birth of there child.

The biggest eye opener going through this for me was it’s one thing in life we simply have no control over the process during the pregnancy.

We are always here to offer any help we can. Feel free to drop me a message on insta if there is anything I can help with directly in regards to this.

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I suppose the most direct route here would be to look at a company that has designed testing specifically for us.

Then see what they test in there package

Would make the most sense to me.

The question of which of these are relevant to you is something only you can answer

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The question is a little hard to answer.

Testing for what ?

Health
Hormones
Performance

?

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A year ?. Sounds ridiculous to
Me for some ones first cycle

Imo based on results n goals – short and long term

12-20 weeks

Blood results depending

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Depends what you want them for.

Health n effect of the cycle – 10-12 weeks.

If wanting to check hormones. Week 5

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Lats
Ventro glute

Personally we’re I use regularly

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I planned on coming off my cycle just to give my body a little break. Long term I planned on getting back on cycle after a short break until my wedding which is in June and then come off to try & have a baby. If this is my plan what do you think would be the best way to break between my two cycles?

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Weight – 238.5lb

all meals in today –

Trained shoulders/chest with a comp client and then went through posing

Warm ups first

1 arm cable side lateral – x 12f, x 10f, x 23f
Cuff front raise- x13f, x 9f, x 14f

Side lateral machine – 3 x 8 with 12 second rest in-between

seated chest press – x 15f, x 10f, x 6f
Inc cable chest – – x13f, x 11f, x 13f
pec dec- x25f, x 20f

More of a set up as he trains as this was more beneficial to the client

Not much else to report- strength is still good as is endurance – little warmer during the day but nothing much to note at all in reality – its just when my temp goes up from things like training, cardio or carrying the baby im warmer than I would normally be

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