[Hilly]

Yes. They are in my journal

But 600 mg EQ n test range 100mmol crashed my EStro under the range minimum

So it’s dramatically effective

Sorry bro I dont get in this much I dont even know how to get to your journal . So that’s 600 eq and 600 test e I presume ? dropped your estrogen below minimum range wow didn’t think it wud be that strong [/quote]
That’s A reading 400mg test would usually or should do

Yup it’s super effect

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[Hilly]

2 days out here.

You can see we’re his back still has a fair bit to
Come off.

Front was almost were I would want it.

Pleased for the time frame
But this guy will be unbeatable imo with a proper run in

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Had a bad day yesterday. Switched to the medtech 500mg EQ n it ruined my glute.

Could barely walk n had serious flu symptoms.

Had to be up at 1am n 4am for a client who was competed in the NZ finals this weekend we’re he came 5th.

Pretty happy with this. He only gave me 4 weeks notice after we had 3 weeks downtime so to pull things round so quick was gd.

He has heaps of potential n next year when I have more than 4-5 weeks to prep him the package will be immense

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[Hilly]

Have you tried different brands of product.

Try AM as Kuba states

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you’re right, sry my bad. My goal is to continue to gain muscle mass as I’ve been doing, I’m with 84kg 14%bf, I don’t want to go up more than this bf and if possible go down a little. I was currently doing 500 test E/week 6 months ago and in the last 3 I added 300 Tren E but I’ve already come to the conclusion that it doesn’t make sense to use it and so I wanted something healthier

Within all the other options of compounds, this is what I wanted to use, I’ve already tried some and some I don’t like or give me some anxiety. I feel that one of my problems has been the lack of recovery , until next summer I can only sleep about 5 hours almost every night due to working hours , it is not a solution but it is one of the reasons I wanted to introduce gh , the only one that I have never used

i’m just a gym rat , i have no intention of competing i just want to keep progressing , my way of looking at things is to do things with time , i can lower doses and go up when i feel the need but what I want to use are these compounds , once again I know it is a question that involves a lot but within these 2 options which do you think I can get more,

build muscle and recovery are the main goals

Ty for your time

I’m would Kuba here.

300 test
200 mast

Re asses at week 6.

However I do like higher less frequent dosing of GH

So would go 7/8 iu GH every other day split AM n PM

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It will be in my journal ?

Did u do the bloods for eq and estro ?[/quote]
Yes. They are in my journal

But 600 mg EQ n test range 100mmol crashed my EStro under the range minimum

So it’s dramatically effective

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So well said buddy [/quote]
It’s an area I have so much interest in now.

Simply because every dam doctor I spoke to said – ivf only option

No matter what I suggested , admitted to them.

It infuriated me.

They said at almost 0. That’s it. Ivf only option

8 million per ml n low motility / morphology- that’s it. Ivf only option

13 million n all in range – ohh er er –

Not once did either private or nhs check my own hormones / testosterone etc

Crazy

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Thanks Hilly!

I have a question, under your trt hcg+hmg usage, did you use any AI? I used to be a big aromatiser, even HCG could made my nipples sore..

Should aromasin help in this prosess, even on lowering shbg?[/quote]
Just nolva during HCG for the same reason

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Seems like you have a very good doctor.

What was the lab ?

St

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I personally feel putting to much stead in set increments at set times isn’t the way to go and also dont over focus on Mg her kg dose increments IMHO.

They are a great guide but they are simply a guide created by us BB to give us direction and they do provide great direction but they are not a must.

for example –

Your first cycle may be 300mg test and 2-300mg primo. – and if you keep gaining at a good rate, composition stays good and performance is excellent there may be zero need to make a change.

next cycle why must we up the dose? We could instead run with 300mg test and 2-300mg NPP for example and we may gain just as well the whole way through.

Now things may be different and we may find half way through things stall, composition starts to soften etc and we can simply either increase from there – 150-200mg of a set compound or a mix of the 2 compounds you are using.

Blood work would be even better and my preference so we could base the changes if needed based off this. – An ideal world scenario but not possible for some I understand this.

This approach would allow for gains over time without much of any increases and then this can be done at every increase over time IMO –

I think its important to rememeber

Upping the dose isn’t the only way to progress a cycle.
Upping the dose at a certain time is sometimes important but not always justified or needed –

Ultimately your body and progress should IMO always dictate changes and it took me a long while to understand this.

Now this doesn’t mean having a set layout of set increments isn’t correct either and Nathans example above is a very good one – When you change to these phases is something you need to decide yourself.

However I think a new phase could also just be a drug change as much as an increment as a way of attending a current cycle and also making progress at lower doses over time.

I also would add that EQ I have found and confirmed through bloods causes most to reduce estrogen. (Jordan and kuba initially I believe noticed this) and thus combining the both now makes more sense than I had initially thought

I do also fully agree with Nathan that your current dosing of testosterone seems a little high for your Bodyweight however it would be good to see pics and progress you have made so far. Dosing is very individual to that person and there body

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Imo still no , tren is quite far down the list of go to drugs. If the time comes I would go primo first ontop , and then nandrolone would

Be my second choice compound

Agree with this

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Why not just follow the pct protocol in the sticky on here that I think we have suggested to you before ?

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Hello buddy. Have you tried the search feature.

This I have covered in depth with several others as well as logged my own process in my journal
From 0 sperm to normal n the birth of my baby girl.

You can Also check the video on my igtv on how I fixed my sperm.

If you scroll
Down in this section maybe 15 threads you will see this same topic discussed and lots of info

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I thought I have attached a picture of my face, but here it is. My face was clear last week. This all happened within the last couple of days.

I had two previous breakouts, but not as bad as this.

The first breakout was in a similar time frame. I had done a test and deca cycle and then started clomid for pct after 2 weeks of my last injection. That was my first cycle ever.

The 2nd breakout was after a competition prep. My coach at the time had me on test E, Tren, and Primo. He cut out all injection for the last week of prep and introduced a few orals: halotestin, proviron, winstrol, and superdrol. I don’t recall the doses on those orals. However, i did the competition, resume taking Test E, tren, mast (we were going to do another show in 4 weeks). Anyways, just 2 weeks after the first show, I started having the breakout.

I just got a hormone panel done yesterday. I will post my blood result once I receive it.

This does look very uncomfortable bud. I have not seen a break out like this before tbh.

It very much sounds to me like you are very hormone change sensitive and drastic changes in hormones seem
To cause these breakouts

You will need to plan future hormone use very carefully imo.

Focus on keeping hormones as stable as possible with slow tapers up
And down.

Potentially avoiding harsher androgenic drugs like tren etc

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