[Hilly]

Sounds like a meal plan issue.

Post it up as rich says.

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[Hilly]

You could also use an oral like anavar

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[Hilly]

300 test / 300 primo initially

Then based of bloods – how estro looks

450-600 test with more primo n potentially masteron to help control Estro.

I would avoid EQ to tbh

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[Hilly]

It’s likely to be a little more efficient yes n better for hormone balance

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[Hilly]

With deca you have to consider there can be some stress / damage the parts of the body other drugs don’t cause especially over long term

So personally I wouldn’t want to be running longer than 16 weeks. Especially at elevated doses.

I also like a low dose mast along side deca only cycles.

Seems to help psychologically. Possibly controlling E2 also.

This is just in my experience tho.

So I’d be good to do 12 weeks on at 600 then take a break and repeat once bloods are OK?[/quote]
You should be yes bud.

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[Hilly]

Urea / creatinine is a little elevated but that’s common and imo not a cause for concern due to our lifestyle elevating these markers

Same as CK

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[Hilly]

Things of concern imo

Looks like estro may of been to high

LDL – little high – look to TrainedByJP love heart / red yeast extract

ALT – much to high – vital support by TrainedByJP is a must for you when cycling n potentially avoiding orals

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[Hilly]

Sounds like your jabs are not sitting right or putting pressure on the nerves in that area possible.

I’m not a fan of glute jabs.

I much prefer ventro glute if not fond of upper body injects

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[Hilly]

Clare nailed it.

For me with clients I usually see.

Drop in motivation to go train.
Drop in performance
Drop in day to day energy

Either poor quality sleep or wanting to sleep all the time

Some bloat / change in bowel movements

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[Hilly]

As above this is quiet common.

Drop back to maintain kcal.

Potentially even fast in the mornings if this helps.

Mainly don’t stress over not getting food in as this will add to the problem.

Also a product like TrainedByJP halcyon could be very useful
Pre bed here imo.

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[Hilly]

Imo I would have your total protein at 1.5g per Lb it direct protein at 1.25h per lb.

Tends to work out roughly the same ime.

Calories are very individual but this is a sensible start point as Darren says then adapt based on progress

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[Hilly]

Not imo.

You may notice a little change in mood or some water retention if your sensitive to Estrogen changes etc

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[Hilly]

Most drugs will take 6-8 weeks to truly leave the system we’re you start to feel the negative sides.

However a proper pct can help with this imo.

Things you will notice

Dip in performance
Dip in energy
Dip in sexual desire

Now this is very very person depending

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[Hilly]

3-4 iu gh a day split am and pm will make a gd difference , I don’t think all things considered insulin immediately is needed

X2

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[Hilly]

If your using nandrolone decanoate, you won’t need to re add anything in the off period , a better approach if your doing short stints on and off is use npp and test prop , 8 and 4 is then ideal

I’m happy to do longer on with nandralone only if that’s better,

in fact I would prefer it. Its just a question of how long can I stay on for?[/quote]
With deca you have to consider there can be some stress / damage the parts of the body other drugs don’t cause especially over long term

So personally I wouldn’t want to be running longer than 16 weeks. Especially at elevated doses.

I also like a low dose mast along side deca only cycles.

Seems to help psychologically. Possibly controlling E2 also.

This is just in my experience tho.

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