[Hilly]

I don’t think it can get much more sensible than that mate. That initial weight increase per week is fine, but there will be weeks where it doesn’t move so don’t feel you need to jump the gun from a purely scales point of view. If you like what you see in the mirror then continue to monitor things as you plan to do, just don’t feel obligated to add food if there’s no scale budge.

could not agree more

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[Hilly]

IMO 1mg is the most suitable dose, I dont see a need to go higher from my understanding but I have not done extensive reading myself or trialled going higher

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[Hilly]

If the foods are what you enjoy and you digest them well, I see no issues with it at all

I also see no issues with your routine as long as you stick with it , and it’s something that can fit into your life without it causing stress. It’ll be something that you’ll be able to sustain which is the most important thing, consistency over everything

I would likely add an extra meal when calories allow, especially as food gets higher just so that the meals aren’t super heavy just to keep again your digestion in a great space

Your cardio set up sounds epic if it sits better there it’s no problem, and if you can recover from everything that you have set up with your training I’m sure some cardiovascular work will only give back to that

Yeah I like to train after 2 meals and do my cardio fasted but right now with my schedule I have to do cardio post workout and train after 1 meal so I guess I just have to make with what works with my situation! Even though it might not be ideal BUT like you said CONSISTENCY IS EVERYTHING

Have any of you guys trained after 1 meal and how did you guys like it or were you just forced to do it with work and your schedule? [/quote]
I agree with Meg and all she said.

I can train after meal 1 and I dont notice to much of a difference but I do feel better overall after 2 meals. If I need to train after Meal 1 I will adjust my pre bed meal to have some additional carbs in usually.

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[Hilly]

Very person depending bud to be honest, as there is a big difference from say myself who sits between 210-230lb dropping to a trt/cruise dose and for some one like Jordan or kuba.

In general I honestly dont notice much but I adjust things to factor in the reduced recovery I will have, which means lower total volume in the gym and more rest. I also dont see huge strength increases when I go on cycle and thus I dont see much of a strength drop off either but this as I say is different for all.

You will defo notice a little less fulness over time and you won’t progress in the gym at the same rate.

it also depends on how high your cycle dose is in comparison to cruise. Coming down from 750mg total to 150mg is going to be different from coming down from 1500mg to 200mg as an example

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[Hilly]

yes but its person depending. In general there does seem to be a some that dont get on with Test prop no matter what lab they use as the most common example I can think of.

Sustanon for a long time years ago just hurt no matter what you did but these was the Pharma stuff being sold and what was available. Organan sust amps from Pakistan had a brutal kick to them but they worked very well indeed.

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[Hilly]

I would defo just be running a TRT/Cruise set up and this is what I did. I also used the period my daughter was born to diet and tidy up and this is what I do with clients.

Your schedule is going to be off and stressed.
Sleep is not going to be 100% in most cases.
You want to be spending more time with your family.

So I switched to an U/L split and rotated through sessions. This way if I I managed 2/3/4 sessions I was still covering all body parts.
I pulled food down into a deficit.
I used this time to experiment with subq TRT jabs and see how it looked on blood work in comparison to IM jabs etc.
Pulled meals down to 4 plus a PWO shake

In my mind with any situation I look to get the most out of what’s going on and what is possible that still works towards the long term goal. So as me and my daughters mum adapted to becoming parents I was in the house and available much more. Then as things settled I picked things back up and was nice and lean to get stuck into a growth phase.

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I’m only finding the same high dose Reta, any suggestions where to find lower? Can’t see on Performa website which seems a trusted source here,

Drop proforma an email and ask if they have any available for research purposes only

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Sunday – Rest day and update.

5 weeks into this diet run while cruising and playing around with the Mots C and reta.

Total assistance used.

Test -240mg. – puts me at a test level of 45
GH -5iu pre bed
Mots C -1mg on wake –
Reta – 3 weeks at 250mcg x 3 – 1 week at 250mcg x 4 (1mg) and then last week at 250mcg x 5 (1.25mg)
SLU PP – 600mcg on wake.
5iu fast slin pre workout.

Weight has dropped from a post xmas/ski holiday of 222-223lb to 209-210lb –
No direct cardio – just walking the dog etc and steps between 12-14k
Food has been on the lower side – 150g carbs daily – additional 100g carb powder TBJP performance fuel around training
Protein – 280g
fats. – circa 30-40g.

Training 4 days per week.

pretty happy with visual changes and I am going to keep pushing this another 5-6 weeks into a trip away I have and see just how lean I can get before I then reverse into growing.

I am very very impressed with the mots C – energy and focus is just superb with it in all day, I wake and have CV burn plus the peptides and then no addition stims/coffee etc all day and I feel just as focused and energised at 6-7pm as I do at 6-7am.

Reta – Still not sure here, I know my dose is low but im not finding any reduction in actual hunger. I still get the same hunger pangs etc in the morning and can eat just find. In general I dont honestly have cravings so im not really going to notice much here.

I do feel last week I was a touch more bloated at times than I would normally be as the dose went up. This week I intend to go to 1.5mg and see how I feel there. U doubt I will go much higher.

Overall tho I am getting nice and lean comfortably here with none of the usual clen/t4 etc in so this in reality is a much healthier way of dieting and getting lean lean that running clen etc. Dont get me wrong clen IMO isnt really a unhealthy drug per say overall but it is causing heart rate to increase and putting some strain on the body were as these peptides are having none of that effect.

Blood work will be done at week 8 of this to see if there is much different here in comparison to previous bloods and then when I move to cycle I will keep these in at lower doses to asses if any improvements in blood work hold as I move to cycle.

From here I intend to then bring in SS 31 and NAD and see what these bring

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[Hilly]

Saturday – Training day.

Had a client in to train at UF durham, Arms and legs. Took it easy on arms for obvious reasons.

Rope PD – 4 x 10-12 – nothing to failure
Preacher machine – 4 x 10-12 – nothing to failure
EZ cable PD – 3 x 10-12 – nothing to failure
Db curl – 3 x 10-12 – nothing to failure

1 leg ham curl – x 8, x8, x 6F, x 13F
1 leg extensions – x 8, x 8, x 14F, x 8F
Hip press – x 8, x 8, x 9F
1 leg hip press – x 19F

Decent overall sessions.

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[Hilly]

Not sure why Friday and Sat have not posted in here.

Friday – Busy work day and trained. Tendons felt a touch better but still keeping volume low.

1 arm Cable laterals – x 8, x 8, x 9F, x 14F
DB front raises – x 8, x 8, x 12F, x 9F
Seated DB laterals – x 15 with 2 drop sets

1 arm HS PD – used a D handle on this as less stress on the tendons – x 8, x 8, x 5F, x 13F
1 arm machine row – x 8, x 8, x 7F x 15F
Seated upper back row – x 8, x 12F

Pec dec – x 10, x 10, x 9F, x 15F
Chest press – x 10, x 10, x 9F, x 14F

Volume lower due to tendon issue and had physio that evening.

Turns out both Biceps are super right and thats causing the tendon pain in elbow at bicep insertion and also shoulder pain at bicep origin. So im in with him the next 3 weeks on the bounce to get this addressed.

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[Hilly]

Firstly yes taking t3 will down regulate / shut off own production in general.

I’m yet to come across any one who did not recover there thyroid to normal levels post extended use.

I’ve used both for atleast 18 months to 2 years solid before as have many many people n clients I know with no issues to note

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[Hilly]

Make your own shakes and bars. I used to for years.

Bars

Oats
Honey
Nut butter
Dried fruit
Protein powder.

Same ingredients for shakes.

Keep it Simple 😎

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[Hilly]

any supplements you would add in? My BW seems to be pretty stable around 86kg mark. Obviously performance is my number one goal, Body weight coming down is second.

Possibly holding a lot of water through training volume etc? Thoughts?

Yes the one i recommended in my first post if happy to use peptides.

Injectable l carnatine at 500mg per day would also be a good move.

Impossible for us to say if your holding water. Do you look like your holding water as if so then its likely you are[/quote]

What about the Tablet form of L-Carnitine?

What is the amount of Fibre recommended per day? Seem to be pretty high at around 75g , may need lowering as getting a fair bit of bloat, but still hungry.

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Injectable works ime much better.

Do you have any digest issues ? If not then it’s fine.

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[Hilly]

I do this for all peptides n just store them laying down with no issues

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[Hilly]

Just out of question, when going back to using fixed insulin syringes, are you using the 0.5mm and also which sites are you rotating and does it have to be shallow im or is sub q sustainable for ED

I only subQ oil if it’s 20-25iu or less. I find more causes little lumps that linger for myself.

I use the standard 1 ml insulin needles.

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