[Hilly]

Estro is too high for you . Some feel good there but others don’t . I would lower the test to 400 , change the mast to primo , and run that at 600 , I bet you will feel perfect ?

Brilliant thank you for that advice Jordan ??[/quote]
Agree with Jordan.

How are you splitting your injects also ?

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[Hilly]

Hi guys thanks for your replys, it seems to have persisted, would you at this point run any aromasin? (I have some at 12.5mgs) or would you start running some nolva?

Thanks

Ps, I’m terrified of getting gyno, so it’s a bit panick stations for me atm

I would do as I said.

Wait till week 5-6 n test hormones

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[Hilly]

Yes

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Agree with ryan.

If all other health markets are fine I would be tempted to stay here.

Or make the little adjustments I suggested above

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Terrible night sleep as had baby in bed with me so charl can sleep through.

The little cutey had terrible wind.

Quiet work day n rest day today

Physio 9am was brutal lol.

Now day with baby n eating

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Thanks @Hilly and @Jordan-Peters

I’ll drop the test to 150mg and add 100mg of likely Masteron. Will Primo help reduce E2 in the way Mast will?

Not as much but imo it will be better for potential muscle growth.

Mast will aid in your performance better i feel.

Use drugs for what they do in line with what you need[/quote]

Not that fussed about muscle growth these days, more feeling good, staying healthy and just looking ok. But some strength gains are always welcome.

[/quote]
I seem to feel my best on test n masteron

Masteron seems to increase free test.

So it’s my preference for trt in most

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I think it probably stemmed from study / studies done showing decent doses of primo had little effect on health markers.

Human nature would think – that’s the dose to go with – maximum amount eith 0 health implications.

Of course less will give some progress.

However there is the personal question of

Do i want to take the lowest healthy dose with lowest progress

Or maximum healthy dose with most progress.

As all else being well more means more in reality imo.

We also know much more in terms of cycle design now and drug interactions I feel.

If one was only using 2-300mg test then a higher dose primo is definitely something to work up to.

I did that this year n had a fantastic cycle going

300mg primo

450mg

600mg

While running lower dose T.

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Rested when I felt bad.

Trained when I felt good

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Based on your dose n results

Dropping down to 150mg should see your total T we’re you want iy.

Why on earth would you want your free testosterone (the useable test ) so much Lower – the idea for our purposes would be to have this as high as possible.

What did the rest of your bloods say ?

Why do you feel there is any risk being a little over as you are now ?

If you feel that taking 250mg test is risky surely adding another chemical to bring your total mg to this dose would be just as risky if not more potentially ?

Testosterone being the only one of these drugs we create naturally being the leased risky theoretically in these low doses.

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Your not going to really feel anything from masteron bud in reality.

Your Estrogen should be better than it is without it.

What is your Estrogen usually on this dose of testosterone?

What was your Estrogen and testosterone numbers ?

How much HCG n now close was it taken to bloods being drawn ?

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I’m with the guys above 2-300mg is very useful

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Not sure where poeple get this info from with primo being weak etc 200 mg will do a good job, start with that and titrate up slowly based of how you feel and progress

There was an age old myth going round it wasn’t worth running at less than 600mg lol

It’s actually on like 90% of steroid guide information amazingly.

It used to be literally every were you read about the drug. For as long as I can remember ?

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I would take them as normal n make sure fully hydrated

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I personally feel 150 test n 75-100 primo is excellent for most

But your own blood work will tell you.

You need to look at improving HDL it seems

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[Hilly]

I guess based on what your saying in terms of side effects etc this may be possible.

The metabolites may still be causing some reaction.

I’d be very tempted to say it’s unlikely but there is a chance.

As you say though – without blood work we’re just guessing.

Yea it’s very weird to me because like I said I usually never get estrogen sides. Might ass in 200 mgs of Masteron E for some estrogen control as I’m really not a fan of taking AI’s due to their health impact [/quote]

I’m a huge fan of using mast for AI purposes [/quote]

What dose do you run it at for that purpose? Do you match it to your test dose? I’m running 250 test so I was thinking 200 mast would suffice. Could also run more if needed[/quote]
Very person depending for most it seems a 2:1 ratio is fine

But this will change as the dose potentially gets higher.

Ive never tested it to see if it’s as effective at higher doses of test. I’d doubt it was to be fair.

If I was on 250 test 100-150 mast may suffice

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