[Hilly]

Weight has dropped to 237.

Down on food – simply due to prioritising the baby n clients over gym sessions n my food.

Just the way it’s got to be.

Trained upper midweek

Lower today

Feeling a bit better after being full of flu

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[Hilly]

I would not trust a blend like this at all personally

I honestly thing you need to do more research bud.

Read and watch the information about first cycles and cycle progression on here.

What AAS have you used before

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[Hilly]

I take 10mg EOD year round.

Lots of benefits to it.

I havnt seen any long term use issues.

Nor have I experienced any after 2 years use

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The better option would be to keep test low n use more Anabolic’s imo.

I would go test n mast but I would be careful the mast doesn’t cause low Estro

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[Hilly]

You obviously have no issues taking AAS. With that in mind, why bother with SARMs? I’m not anti-SARM, but from my own experience there is very little a SARM can do, that traditional AAS cannot. Hell, you could probably achieve what you want without even touching orals at all and sticking completely with injectables.

What should I take with Test E that’ll help supplement it? I’m looking at building strength and losing some fat. [/quote]
Nothing.

Just take the Test E bud.

Why do you need some thing with it.

Start with 3-400mg test.

Get bloods done first.

Make sure training / nutrition/ help is all in point first

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[Hilly]

It will be fine imo.

I would happily use

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I don’t see anything to be of major worry personally.

Iron is high but blood markers / rbc etc is ok so if BP is ok it wouldn’t worry me personally

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[Hilly]

Body comp
Performance
Scale weight

Digestion
Day to day – energy n sleep

All factor in for me for chanted.

First 3 mainly

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I just eat what I want now but aim for 25g of protein as a very min per meal and 5-7 meals a day depending on hunger and how long I’m awake.

But the science and logic always baffled me as to why it’s done the way it is. Science says slow digesting protein and the longer you have to wait before you can raise MPS again. But most still eat at set times.

Because it doesn’t really matter I think in reality.

Science I believe shows no difference in overall mps between 4-6 meals or higher.

I believe optimal has been shown to be 4-5 feeds daily.

However those that need super high food or potentially even not may struggle to get there food in over just 4 meals

Some may simply prefer 6 meals.

For me – 40-50g protein produces a maximal spike in PS in general

Most peak n then start to down trend every 3-4 hours

I don’t believe there is anything saying you must wait till hit baseline etc

So I think that’s were the logic comes from n I think there is a lot of common sense to it.

Plus it seems to have worked for decades so I’d take this over science any day

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[Hilly]

As you can see it’s very person depending I think.

If you have a higher output during the day and BF is in. Lower good range then there may be zero need to adjust rest days.

Some of my clients actually have higher days on rest days.

Others may need lower carb / cal

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[Hilly]

Your test is in line with the doses your running.

How was the rest of your blood work ?

This is dam hefty cycle.

Do you have any current pictures

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[Hilly]

Hi Billy, you made me realize that I aromatize quite easy even with a clean diet. I’m no longer considering the oxy addition. I’m slowly trying to reach a Men’s physique in a couple years. Could I still continue with the 300mg of test if I add the primo? I know the primo would act as an AI and I also have Nova on standby. Thanks

Yes you could and that’s what I would do.

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[Hilly]

You could certainly move to a Trt dose first at a slightly higher level to stay just above natural levels for maximum muscle retention then pct.

This would be my preferred option

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[Hilly]

As long as bloods confirm testosterone is recovered to a good level a slight deficit will be fine imo.

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[Hilly]

As above.

You should be able to set this up so there is no need for any AI

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