[Hilly]

Agree with above , I would diet and get lean on 150 test , you need absolutely nothing else at all based on these pictures . Just get lean

Fully agree here.

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[Hilly]

I’m not sure if I’m
Way off here.

But Havnt we gone through all
Of this with you in the supplement section.

In detail ?

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[Hilly]

Looks to me like you Havnt recovered properly yet.

Testosterone is very low.

Did you get fsh n LH checked. I can’t see these.

Id want to check this first.

Otherwise coming off was a waste

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[Hilly]

Don’t do that from the off you don’t need it , 200/200/200 is all you need. When you make the second adjustment then add more to the primo

Ok 200/200/200 it is ?? in regards to making your next jump is there a time frame you go off or just when you see your training & physique’s progress slow a bit? Also on the next jump up would you say around 200-300mg jump on total mg sufficient?[/quote]
6-8 weeks I feel is usually spot on.

8 seems to just be were I always land.

3-4 weeks for hormones to stabilise

4 weeks with them
Level.

Then make moves

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[Hilly]

Thankyou @Hilly ! I think i will bump my test from 100 to 200. What @Jordan_peters said.

Get my bloodwork back on track. And retest in 6 or 8 weeks.

Then i will (when bloodwork is good) bump it up with primo or mast.

Yes your right! The first rebound with food n training. And the second push hopefully with re-introducing the anabolics.

Thankyou again! Means a lot coming from you!

My pleasure bud

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[Hilly]

Second covid jab has wiped me this week.

Still got 3 sessions in.

Still got all check ins done on time.

Weight still holding 240.

Onwards we March.

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[Hilly]

I think you need to look at your cycle design.

Try to run cycles that hold less water for you. Controlling hormones better etc.

Keeping testosterone at 2-300mg.

Then using primo / EQ and ‘dryer’ drugs.

Get bloods done and keep estro etc middle of range.

Then from here as kuba stated a drug like that may help especially if BP is elevated.

Simply maintaining a better composition and fitness level is imo most important

Hi @Hilly

So NPP considered dry drug ?

Primo / NPP / EQ / anavar / mastron all of this can be used with low test cycle ?

Regards [/quote]
NPP potentially but potentially not. Depends on the person.

You will likely hold more water than the others I mentioned

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[Hilly]

44.8nmol with « 600mg » of sust, can we agree this one was a tad fake ?

I was on 600 susta, 300 « primo » but I don’t expect this one to be real is the test wasn’t..

I think the information above clearly answers this my man.

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In my experience the current drug set up will be completely fine.

Fully agree with Jimmy to

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Hey bud.

Try the search button. This has been covered in huge depth many many times.

What are you wanting to use it for.

Theoretically taking the full 4iu pre bed is better for growth

Splitting is better for fat loss / body recomp

Around training for recovery

Without doing to in-depth

However most importantly is that it’s real and you use it consistently

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[Hilly]

My labs are

TSH 0.52

fT4 1.5 ng/dl ( 0.9 -1.8)

fT3 3.6pg/ml (2.0 -4.0)

I feel okay most of the time, sometimes i think my metabolism could be faster.

Do you think I would benefit from running t4 lower and t3 a bit higher? I recently read that Jordan Peters for example runs 100mcg t4 +37.5 t3 all the time.

Your numbers look ideal here imo

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Trying changing the lab you are using buddy.

Or try test Cyp

Thanks for the reply @Hilly

I actually used a different lab that I’d been recommended by several people I trust & then had to switch due to shortage of the first lab. I’m not quite sure if I experienced this same thing back then & I’m starting to second guess myself. Knowing myself I could’ve just disregarded it even if I experienced it…

On the Cypionate note; do some people have tolerance issues with certain esters?

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It seems some report so yes.

However this could of simply been a bad batch.

For instance ROHM the most consistent lab around had 1 batch of Test E this year that stung a fair bit.

It just happens some times

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[Hilly]

Thought I’d throw up an update here – 10 days out managed to stay on track and recover ?

Very very well done my man ??

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[Hilly]

Sorry bud. This tag never came up. Not sure now I missed the first one.

The HDL is the only thing plus I think potassium is showing a tad high.

In reality everything your doing and taking is going to drive HDL low and not much ime will bring this up during prep.

Post show make it your focus to get this back up

Off the drugs

Good fats straight into the meal plan

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[Hilly]

Drop the broccoli
Drop the Mt2

See if things improve.

You may simply be ill however.

As this does not at all sound training related for less than a week

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