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What is his test level compared to yours ?

Is it the same brand.

There is no reason to expect you will both react the same to a drug.

Every one of us is a little different

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Thanks a lot for the indepth replies mate! Going to take all of that on board.. appreciate the time & explanation @Hilly will start the cycle and reassess bloods in 4weeks to check estro/prolactin! [/quote]
My pleasure bud

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Just for steroidal hormones or for each parameter?

In addition to that, is medicheck high sensitivity?

@Hilly Should the deafult ranges, which are used for conventional parameters, be taken into consideration in the same way when using high sensitivity?

My logic would tell be a high sensitivity test is just giving a more accurate reading but the ranges would stay the same.

However although I’m pretty well versed on reading blood work
I am not a professional in the process etc so I can’t honestly say how the different test might change parameters to any scientific certainty

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So I would firstly sort out your macros.

You should not be 100g less protein on rest days.

Set the protein the same.

Drop t day cals by 400.

Increase expenditure to 7-8k steps.

Re evaluate in 2-4 weeks

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Depends were your other carbs are and what your meal plan looks like

What are total macros ?

By the sounds of it you need to check insulin sensitivity n potentially need more fats.

Are you assisted or natural

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Yes I do. Your body counts them wether you do or not is the facts.

So just pick one way n keep it consistent

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Trying changing the lab you are using buddy.

Or try test Cyp

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Why would you want to run anything alongside ? You did amazing on 200

, all you need is 300 . OR 200 + 100 primo , DO NOT go over 300 total

Fully agree with this

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@Hilly so you think 100mg of premo a week if proper primo is 100% worth it? At that low of a dose?

Just wondering cause I’ve got some pharma premo from my doc but was under the impression I’d have to run more to get the most out of it

Worth it for what ?

Estrogen control and muscle retention on a cruise – with the goal of what we are talking about. – yes

For a focused off season cycle with the goal of adding muscle then not for most

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Imo I would run 200mg test and 100mg primo.

Nothing else.

I would get your act together and get your meal plan and cardio on point and work on being 98-% perfect weeks after week.

This imo is all you need

Thank you man, really appreciate that. Why only 100 primo?

I thought maybe 300 test, 300 primo? Or better 250 test 300 primo? What’s the advantage of lower dose test than primo?

My primo is 300 mg per ml so I would do just two shots per week[/quote]

Simply because more is not better.

Primo will control the Estrogen to some extent from the testosterone which is much healthier than an AI.

Primo is a little more anabolic than masteron.

For me your total goal here is simply muscle retention while you get your fat down to a healthier level n potentially add a tad of muscle.

If you were very performance focused – power lifter etc then I may suggest masteron as there is reports / potential science showing it can help with movement patterns. However that’s not your goal.

We must look at drugs for what we want from them.

300mg total drug use is more than enough for maximum muscle retention and strength increases.

This 2:1 ratio will in my experience keep your hormonal profile perfect.

If you upped the primo or used masteron you may need more test to keep estro higher.

This could be your step once your super lean.

If you go on my Instagram you can check out my Dubai diet highlight n see the changes I made on this drug combination.

I felt fantastic

I looked pretty good

Blood work was excellent

Sex drive was great.

I got all the fat off.

More is not better for this current goal.

Hope this helps. [/quote]Thank you hilly, in case of probably my primo is fake and I felt super great on masteron would you say also 300 test 200 masteron would be fine too? [/quote]
It certainly could be. It may crash estro to much though.

You will need to run blood work n check

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12-15%? Just a guess

Based on this I would run a low dose test and primo – 300/200

Get a little leaner so you’re in the best position to grow and then push up.

Potentially increasing those doses a little when needed[/quote]

If I don’t have a solid source for Primo, what do you think about adding in NPP?

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NPP would be a gd second option if you don’t have access to primo.

In terms of cycling

Long as your blood work is good n your making progress.

Then you cruise.

Repeat

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