[Hilly]

@Jordan_peters of course I did, but none of them talk in regard to its impact on E2 levels, because of that I wanted to know from you point of view which would be the ratio Test:bold that has brought you and your clients to low E2 levels, being more favorable for a cutting phase and which ratio would you suggest to keep E2 high for the off-season!

Thank you.

Hello bud.

If you understood things a little better you would realise we did.

You need to find out what’s works for YOUR body.

So start 400mg test and 200mg EQ

Run 6 weeks – how do you feel ? What does your blood work look like ?

Then you decide what you want as your next step based on YOUR goals

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[Hilly]

Read the pct sticky on this very section by Dr Dean bud.

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[Hilly]

Looks just swollen to me.

If this is your first jab it’s going to be painful as the site is not used to it. That always happens.

Never mind the fact you injected 5ml.

Please be more careful in the future. If you can work out the dosing you potentially shouldn’t be using the drugs

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[Hilly]

Your not drinking to much.

What is sodium intake like ?

Macro split ? Your not on a keto set up etc are you ?

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[Hilly]

The only way to know for sure is follow the plan and assess bodyweight changes

At 16 you have a lot of growth potential so take advantage of it and don’t be afraid to eat. If you’re staying consistent and training hard you’ll be surprised how much you’ll gain early on

Luckily you have an awesome resource here that I wish was available when I was 16. Take your time going through the education section and it’ll payoff big time

Yeah I am so happy I got this app it has made me rethink what I am currently doing already. Do you think younger people can get away with carrying a little more fat mass then experienced lifters?

[/quote]In reality it shouldn’t make a difference.

We can all carry fat Mass and get it off

When your younger I feel

You should be putting all your focus into maximum muscle growth and not trying to stay to lean n risking reduced progress

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[Hilly]

You need to start taking health supplements imo.

Vital support
Vitamin D3
Fish oil
As a minimum

All can be found from TrainedByJP

This would be my first step as its simply impossible moving to a calorie deficit is what’s causing illness straight away

There must be an issue some were

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[Hilly]

I would simply create the meal plan to include as many foods as you can thar lower ulric acid.

A simple google will give you a list.

The lowest protein intake I would be trying is 0.75g per lb of body weight of a client needs to run low protein

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[Hilly]

Mast is a better a.i – it was made from a medical perspective for cancer patients initially .

Primo is a better anabolic , it was made medically for issues related more to needing more anabolism.

With test being fairly low, I would opt for additional anabolism from the primo , especially when the goal is simply set yourself up to grow , not specifically to get your body fat level to a point where masteron would shine – I.e a comp prep

Ahhh. Jordan covered the science side to my blabbering

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[Hilly]

Personally I would opt for mast here during a fat loss phase, don’t touch test

I heard that masteron wouldn’t develop an effect at this high percentage of bodyfat. So 250 Test, 300 Mast p would be an option? Thanks Kuba[/quote]

??you heard a drug wouldn’t work ? Ingesting and complete utter nonsense. Keep your test same and add 250 mast will work tremendously [/quote]

Thoughts on people saying that Mast works as an AI ? Arent primo and EQ better as AI’s ?[/quote]
They all work as an AI to some extent.

I think how much is person depending.

Then it’s what other benefits you want from each drug that will decide your choice

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[Hilly]

Imo I would run 200mg test and 100mg primo.

Nothing else.

I would get your act together and get your meal plan and cardio on point and work on being 98-% perfect weeks after week.

This imo is all you need

Thank you man, really appreciate that. Why only 100 primo?

I thought maybe 300 test, 300 primo? Or better 250 test 300 primo? What’s the advantage of lower dose test than primo?

My primo is 300 mg per ml so I would do just two shots per week[/quote]
Simply because more is not better.

Primo will control the Estrogen to some extent from the testosterone which is much healthier than an AI.

Primo is a little more anabolic than masteron.

For me your total goal here is simply muscle retention while you get your fat down to a healthier level n potentially add a tad of muscle.

If you were very performance focused – power lifter etc then I may suggest masteron as there is reports / potential science showing it can help with movement patterns. However that’s not your goal.

We must look at drugs for what we want from them.

300mg total drug use is more than enough for maximum muscle retention and strength increases.

This 2:1 ratio will in my experience keep your hormonal profile perfect.

If you upped the primo or used masteron you may need more test to keep estro higher.

This could be your step once your super lean.

If you go on my Instagram you can check out my Dubai diet highlight n see the changes I made on this drug combination.

I felt fantastic
I looked pretty good
Blood work was excellent
Sex drive was great.

I got all the fat off.

More is not better for this current goal.

Hope this helps.

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[Hilly]

It’s synthetic growth hormone so timing of food I would say is irrelevant bud in reality

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We’re does your current dose put your free t4 n free t3 numbers

If there close to top end I see no reason to increase

If not you certainly could bump a tad to make your thyroid SS efficient as possible

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[Hilly]

Yes. It’s what I have clients do in a similar situation

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12-15%? Just a guess

Based on this I would run a low dose test and primo – 300/200

Get a little leaner so you’re in the best position to grow and then push up.

Potentially increasing those doses a little when needed

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[Hilly]

There is no proper time imo.

Gh is a fantastic drug that will aid recovery , performance and longevity.

If you can afford it and get real stuff then using it is a gd call imo

HGH actually is the least longevity correlated drug in bodybuilding, because of IGF-1. IGF-1 is a growth factor which high levels are inversely correlated with a long lifespan actually. IGF-1 makes your cells divide more and faster, this leads to more rapid aging actually. It is a great drug and great for feeling good, recovery & performance, but Longevity is not in that list.

[/quote]
Hello bud.

I believe that in terms of bodybuilding longevity- growth hormone is top of that list compared to any other drug.

I’m not talking about anti aging my man.

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