[Hilly]

When you refeed the metabolism picks up

The insulin release and glucose transport picks up

Drastically

All of this plus the body dealing with it requires minerals which seem to get depleted more so during a refeed

I think there may be another mechanism to but I’m not that clever unfortunately

However I do know this happens to the majority and is very common

Also most on a refeed seem to let there water slip when you actually need more.

Fixes

Extra sodium
Coconut water
Add 1l to water intake

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[Hilly]

Chips u gotta eat so fucking much to get the same amount of carbs as rice

Eating 300g cooked rice gets hold ASAP

Eating 500g raw weight potato as chips is wayyyyy easier n more fun lol

I was doing 300g cooked rice 4-5 times a day n it gets old. The chips never do

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Not a bad weekend

Cam in his first year taking second in juniors after 2 first this year already

Shannon 4th. She took second last time so a little gutted here but the quality must of been immense or we were 2 lean again Even after pushing food up every day this week lol

Riz – no placing n i have no idea why. Best hes ever looked by far – I just can’t get my head round him not placing

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[Hilly]

Is it just that you’ve been pushing for along period that’s making you tired and shitty?
I’ve just had my baby three weeks ago. I’ve taken two weeks off the gym and it’s been good to recharge.
Sleep has been wank though for obvious reasons

Yes buddy.

I’ve been pushing 6 months n 40lb more or less.

I would of normally pulled back why now.

I just know I am pulling back when baby comes so didn’t want to pull back prior to then.

However my body is well n truly saying – back the hell off lol.

Huge congrats on the baby to bud

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No I don’t believe you can

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Agree with Clare.

For me I’m looking at

Bowel movements- are they normal, regular – normal is different for all.

Gas – more or less than usual – terrible smelling

Distension

Energy , brain fog

Choosing foods that work
For you as an individual is the biggest key ime.

L glutamine for gut health.

For many avoiding dairy n gluten helps a lot

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Eating foods rice and meats/chicken make my pretty much sick gos maybe 50g rice 150g meat is what i can eat on one sitting

You wrote 150g raw weight rice above ?

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Meal 1 – sounds a digestion nightmare.
Rice flakes , nut butter , seeds , jam , fruit juice
Isolate

Will digest better imo

M2 – ok

Pwo – iso , fruit juice , rice cereal or cre
Of rice

M3 – sushi rice , salmon , isolate ,

M4 – lean steak mince – this however would digest slow for me. I’d go chicken , 2 -4 eggs , air fryer chips – so easy to eat chips are no matter what lol

M5 – iso , oil ,

This imo would work better

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Pics would be helpful as above.

However primo or NPP are going to be your best 2 options imo.

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I find most feel better including myself on lower test and higher nandrolone

Very individual tho

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It will add a little hardness IF you are very lean. Otherwise a waste imo.

Remember it will dehydrate your

If your going away on a lads holiday etc this could have implications to be aware of

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If you were my client with all this information

I would have you do

150mg test

150mg primo

Per week split into 2 jabs

Then take blood at week 6

No issues on bloods or with gyno you could run this for 16-20 weeks no issues

You could based on bloods n feedback go to 200 test n 200 primo

Hi hilly

I appreciate your answer but it doesn’t really answer my question as to if sides of gyno start to appear, my biggest worry at the moment is not knowing what to do if sides start to come, for example a lump forming or even sensitive nipples ect, id like to have the right things to combat this straight away, and what I should have on hand to combat the gyno sides straight away,

Hope this is a little clearer [/quote]
With this cycle of the drugs are real there would be very little chance of getting gyno.

Also without bloods it’s hard for us to tell you what you would need to do to fix the issue.

As a short term measure having Nolvadex on hand and taking 20mg if it occurs will help. 

But i answered all your first questions

Then bloods at 6 weeks would let us answer properly how to help of there are issues ?

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Never seen them, but it’s defo possible they are legit , personally I would send one of these off to janoshik for testing before investing anything into them . But I defo know there are 20 iu bottles coming out of China , meditrope do an orange top that’s 22-24iu a bottle

Thankyou JP, is it possible to tell by blood markers if its real? Take blood work pre hgh use. After couple of weeks recheck the bloodwork. And see if thyroid/t4 is changed. Or change in fasting blood sugar ?
@hilly [/quote]
Your much better off getting it tested like Jordan states

Unless you can arrange an IGF blood test

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Very much person depending

T3 controls metabolism

This will reduce on prep naturally – which means you then need to lower food n increase output even more –

This would very much likely cause muscle loss or the potential

Using t3 to keep levels in a healthy range makes a lot of sense for some

Certainly not all my clients use

Then if one needs to speed up fat burning you can increase the drug for that to.

Remember drugs do a job – it’s simply a matter of do you need them to do that job at that time

If you had the perfect off season , perfect prep then you may not need

If you genetically don’t see a decrease in t3 on blood work during prep you may not need

You may need for a host of reasons

I’m that case how bad is the rebound post prep when t3 is removed versus in a natural prep?[/quote]
There shouldn’t be one imo.

I will usually use Clen to cover the potential lul in thyroid until it comes back to normal levels

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