[Hilly]

Sounds like your not going deep enough

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[Hilly]

Can’t see any pics bud

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[Hilly]

Keep them
We’re they need to be to maintain and solidify the new tissue defo

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[Hilly]

Genetics can dictate this more than ever.

If your wanting to really limit any fat gain you risk not gaining the max possible amount of muscle

Keep increments to 200kcal

Track bf calipers

But it’s a very slow process

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[Hilly]

My food is touching 5k now

Getting bloods today for hormones

See how things look on

450 test / 300 mast / 450 NPP

Then will step that up

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[Hilly]

Trained shoulders / tri / chest

Workout still all
Over due to physio so not worth writing up

First time junior a week out

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[Hilly]

What are your goals?

Current body comp?

I just finished a clean up phase so now the goal is to grow.
Current body comp 6’2 257 lbs and I’d say I’m around 13% BF [/quote]
I would do 300 test and 300 NPP / deca personally based on this.

If you was leaner I may of suggested just upping test

It’s very apples and oranges imo however. Both have positives and negatives

If I was setting this up I would be doing both.

8 weeks as above

Then 8 weeks higher test only

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[Hilly]

Riz is correct. I’m sure I may of sent him that study tbh.

I have used in the past for over 12 months straight and recovered fine

I’m yet to find some one that hasn’t actually

And I’ve been around people using this drug for over a decade

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[Hilly]

Hey man.

I would certainly have a tidy up from here. Pushing anymore will just lead to more fat gain and not being as responsive imo.

It would of been better to get into a lean state first before the cycle. That way you could of had a long push up while keeping the fat gain down.

I would get down very lean from here for the remainder of the cycle personally

Agreed 100%

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[Hilly]

Imo I do feel It will
Help.

Growth hormone has healing properties and is used for this medically.

Now how much it may help in relation to cost is debatable and hard to say

I would look into bpc 157 / tb500 also

I have done a video on here regarding this

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[Hilly]

If you need the calories/macros – milk

If you don’t – water

Digestion taken into consideration obv

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[Hilly]

Here are some current physique photos. Fasted at 173lbs

Cut down to 160.

Then go again

In my opinion your doing gd my man.

Keep at it

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[Hilly]

Awesome physique man and great focus.

I would go 400kcal train days
200 rest days

Repeat this when things stall for 2 weeks.

Your young n will have the ability to push food

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[Hilly]

If your only putting something in for 4-6 weeks.

I would use an oral personally.

Doesn’t make sense to me adding an inject in for that short time.

Primo defo of a little longer.

I would use superdrol or oxy as my preferred choice

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[Hilly]

Rest day today. Tendons were super sore still from physio

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