[Hilly]

As kuba says your going to run into a sticky spot if you switch between the 2 now potentially. However given the half life of the drugs and dose your taking of primo I do think if you switch to Eq now you may find its not a terrible transition.

Its just taking alot out of your control as im presuming you know how well primo controls your E2 and you know these ratios put you in a good spot.

Were As switching to Eq you dont know how much puts you were etc etc.

It would be favourable to stick with primo if thats were you have your experience etc and blood work data, however if you simply cant get primo that you trust then I would be switching to Eq at 400mg per week based on the 700mg test and checking bloods at week 4 and week 6 of use to see whats going on and getting the data you need.

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[Hilly]

Sunday – so the bad news is it seems ive torn my good pec, the only thing I can think that has done it which is when it runs in line with noticing soreness was doing broomstick warm ups for the shoulder mid week. I should of used a band when starting these obviously. Its hurting and swollen from the sternum attachment side which also adds up to the over stretch cause and not a actual pressing movement. FFS

Today – 2 x 30 minute dog walks in

5 meals in.

I did train but was just with Sarah running through stuff with her so nothing worth noting.

Im going to rest 2moro and see how this pec is.

will be increasing Klow dose to 30iu daily

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[Hilly]

Mots c is epic for this initially

1 mg daily is plenty start on 500 mcg

Start with that then add SLU in and out in offseason to maintain sensitivity

Then it all depends on what you want to achieve and need out of them my man so keep asking us on forums

agree with Kuba here

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[Hilly]

As I typed that, Hilly said it better than I did. 😆

nah i think you said it pretty dam well to my man

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[Hilly]

This will work for sure but I can think of a better make up nutritionally.

Oat flour/rice flour based on digestion

macadamia/avocado oil

Honey

banana/dates

Protein powder

water or milk based on dietary requirements and how many cals you want.

Salt

Thanks for your reply how much would you suggest for avacado oil, honey, banana as not a fan of dates, to add to the shake ? [/quote]
depends on how many kcal your trying to get bud

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[Hilly]

Go to bed a similar time.

Have your last meal a similar time

keep fluid consistent

Wake up the same time

go to the toilet as normal

Stand on the scales as normal.

pretty straight forward stuff – consistency is key

If your getting mad swings I would check the floor is level were the scales are, make sure its on a solid/hard floor and not carpet and make sure scales are not broke

Thank you hilly for the reply to be honest with you my scale is a piece of shit. Is there any scale that is favored in the bodybuilding world? Thanks mate[/quote]
ive never looked at brands TBH any normal digital scale will do but I do find after a year or 2 they go to shit lol

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[Hilly]

Saturday – training day and 12k steps hit

5 meals in

Trained arms/legs – good session and starting to push the legs more so now knee feels good.

Preacher curl – x 8, x 8F, x 5F with 2 drops
EZ bar push down – x 8, x10F, x 6F with 2 drops
Standing Db curls – x 8, x 9F
1 arm Cable PD – x 12F, x 8F

Seated ham curls – x 8, x 8, x 6F with 1 drop
1 leg extensions – x 8, x 8, x 10F with 1 drop
Squat machine – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 6
Adductor. -x 8, x 8, x 14F

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[Hilly]

Honestly this sounds like hell mentally and sounds like your sucking all the fun out of being in the gym.

Make sure your form is accurate to the exercise
make sure your training as hard as possible.
Every time make sure you are trying harder, log book sessions and focus on beating them.

dont over complicate and suck the fun out of something that your doing for enjoyment and to progress at.

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[Hilly]

Have you actually looked at fixing the root cause instead of just treating the inflammation from what ever the issue is?

Klow will work for sure -Mix 3ml of bas water and then dose 30iu (3 x normal dose) daily into the bicep area.

However if after all this time and use of others I doubt this will make it simple go away.

therapy work – massage/chiro/osteo/physio etc

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[Hilly]

I would go with Test and Eq – keep doses on the lower side to start and asses as you go.

I dont see Eq causing any more stress on the body than any other AAS and never have in any one.

Some people will notice an increase in HB etc more so than other AAS but this isn’t common again IME.

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[Hilly]

Try coming off completely for a few days if it wont shift and then tapering the dose back up slowly

1 week on 2iu
2 week on 4iu
2 weeks on 5iu
1 week on 6iu and asses

How have you been dosing the 6 or 4iu? As splitting it may help also if dosing it all at once

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[Hilly]

Thanks a lot for your answer !

Can I ask for a bit more details ?

Is it because the body has trouble building back muscle while fasting ?

Or that nutrients can be “wasted” when eaten in too large portion ?

I’m a natural athlete (for now at least) so i’m also looking to maximise my body’s hormones, and i recently stumbled upon studies claiming that fasting was very good to improve GH, autophagy of damaged or dead cells, etc.

But i wanted your wisdom before concluding anything.

The fact your natural should make this even more of an obvious answer. You dont have any hormonal support to drive progress etc. you need every advantage you can get to maximise progress.

Starving your body for 16 hours just sounds like a bad idea when you need every possible advantage.

yes for sure fasting has loads of health benefits, when im older I will most certainly run periods of fasting especially when I want to downsize as its a great idea for loosing muscle and maintaining good health.

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[Hilly]

It simply makes no sense.

Every meal we have with a protein feed spikes muscle protein synthesis and thus gives us an opportunity to grow. 4/5/6 meals per day gives 6 spikes in MPS. Thats just factual science.

We then know larger meals will always stress the GIT and potentially skew digestion a little if not alot for some.

We also know that the focus is always on training performance. Your just not feeling your body enough by eating pre and post and then fasting in-between.

then the common sense factor – you simply won’t find any decent to great bodybuilder or jacked person that eats like that. You may find some one that has built a decent amount of tissue first and then transitioned to that and they may be able to maintain an good physique. This one is answer enough without the facts above for me

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[Hilly]

Go to bed a similar time.
Have your last meal a similar time
keep fluid consistent
Wake up the same time
go to the toilet as normal
Stand on the scales as normal.

pretty straight forward stuff – consistency is key

If your getting mad swings I would check the floor is level were the scales are, make sure its on a solid/hard floor and not carpet and make sure scales are not broke

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