[Hilly]

Wednesday – Training day and into doing all body parts just 1 x per week

steps – 14k

meals in – 6

training – delts/chest – all sets are hard work sets just last one to failure

1 arm cable laterals – 3 x 8-10
Upright rows – 3 x 8-10
incline chest press – 3 x 10-12
seated chest press – 3 x 8-10
Standing DB laterals – 3 x 10-12
pec dec – 3 x 12-15
Db front raises – 2 x 12-15

good session, pump was great. I am going to run this this week and next and asses before I write something up properly and stick to it for the rest of the year

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[Hilly]

I was on 2438 cal 179P 315C 40F training day 49F rest (without fishoils) for a couple months and before that was on even higher cals 2600-2700 (I’m 18 76kg 182cm) but yeah haven’t got bloodwork in a bit so might go again soon but it currently does feel like I’m chasing my tail year on year and not seeing progress as I should

You are only 18 bud.

Remember genetics play a huge part / roll here and some just progress slower than others and then the odd person progresses quicker than those on AAS

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[Hilly]

If you have been on cycle I personally would just drop down to 200-250mg test split daily. Maybe 25mg proviron if needed for E2 management

Use the cruise phase to cut fat off then get back to growing.

IMO for most this is a much more direct way than trying to drive a recomp.

Test 300/EQ 300 will crash most people’s E2 hard

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[Hilly]

in the majority of people both EQ and primo will reduce E2 and it will show on blood work yes. How much is of course individual to each person.

It is masteron that blocks it from binding to the receptor but does n to directly lower

Thank you, much appreciated,

I tend to hyper respond to test, low doses get me to high blood levels, problem is estrogen rises aswell, should i still run 1:3 ratio with test and eq/primo or do you advise upping the eq ?

I plan a 600mg test, 300mg eq

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I would go the test / EQ based on this info as you laid out.

Potentially first 2 weeks just run

300mg test 300 EQ

300mg test 300 eq

600mg test 300 eq

Repeat

Give EQ a little time to take effect [/quote]

Could frontloading eq be an option here, lets say 600mg for the first two weeks then back to 300mhg as it takes a ton of time to kick in[/quote]
Yes it’s defo another option. It can just cause a bit of an unpredictability but both options can work.

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How close rto bloods did you train? Presuming you took 48 hours plus off the gym ?

Speak to your Trt doc regarding all of this and hormones as he will need to alter

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Hello mate

Fasted I do it with the normal vacuum poses

And then I do vacuum holds non fasted (cause we need real stage conditions here, we will probably never be really fasted on stage lol)

At different moments of the day

Post breakfast, lunch or before bed with full day of meals and water

The fasted vacuum i do think it helps you to connect with your midsection and helps waking up the digestive system and evacuation imo

Then i do feel more connected with my midsection throughout the day

And so I am more mindful at the gym.

But practicing it with full belly on posing DEF is a game changer for me.

No matter your stage peak, lot of water or food; practicing it this way will help you controling it on stage no matter what happen on your waistline on stage

Also you do practice your stamina/cardio/endurance this way

Fantastic post

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Not entirely sure where the 250 to 500mcg dose ranges people are stating actually come from? There’s no human data on this at all, so every number in here is guessed off the mouse work. Scale that properly (surface area, not bodyweight) and you’re in the tens-to-low-hundreds of mg not mcg, which is where the 50mg tablets come from. The mcg number isn’t pharmacology, it’s 332 getting sold next to peptides when it isn’t one.

Personally I noticed nothing from 250-500mcg and started to notice improved fasted cardio performance and lower heart rate with a singular change of dosage from 500mcg to 5mg. I know a few people running upwards of 10mg daily with similar results.

I dread to think how id feel of 5mg lol![/quote]
You’d likely feel nothing… the sweating and other things you mention are either placebo or something else you are using or something else in the capsule as this isn’t how slu works… its not a stimulant.. it remodels how you body burns fuel over a period of weeks. [/quote]
Yes it changes how the body uses fuel and increases metabolic rate.

If you don’t think this is going to Increase core temperature and this sweating I’d say you don’t understand how the body works however I doubt this is true. You should see certain things from SLU based on how it works within the body. One of the main things being an increase in sweating

For extra clarity a simple google search

SLU-PP-332 increases core temperature primarily through mitochondrial uncoupling. By acting as an exercise mimetic that stimulates Estrogen-Related Receptors (ERRs), it accelerates fatty acid oxidation and ramps up the metabolic rate. This increased inefficiency causes the mitochondria to burn more fuel to generate the same amount of cellular energy, with the excess calories being dissipated as heat rather than stored as ATP

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[Hilly]

Not entirely sure where the 250 to 500mcg dose ranges people are stating actually come from? There’s no human data on this at all, so every number in here is guessed off the mouse work. Scale that properly (surface area, not bodyweight) and you’re in the tens-to-low-hundreds of mg not mcg, which is where the 50mg tablets come from. The mcg number isn’t pharmacology, it’s 332 getting sold next to peptides when it isn’t one.
Personally I noticed nothing from 250-500mcg and started to notice improved fasted cardio performance and lower heart rate with a singular change of dosage from 500mcg to 5mg. I know a few people running upwards of 10mg daily with similar results.

Well I would hope from the dosages we all have used as here we only speak from personal experience bud.

Myself plus clients have found 300-1200mcg effective. Obviously the higher the dose the more effect.

I’ve never had 1 person go higher than 1200mcg so far. I’ve heard of others doing it with success but so far not had the need to

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I can’t

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[Hilly]

in the majority of people both EQ and primo will reduce E2 and it will show on blood work yes. How much is of course individual to each person.

It is masteron that blocks it from binding to the receptor but does n to directly lower

Thank you, much appreciated,

I tend to hyper respond to test, low doses get me to high blood levels, problem is estrogen rises aswell, should i still run 1:3 ratio with test and eq/primo or do you advise upping the eq ?

I plan a 600mg test, 300mg eq

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I would go the test / EQ based on this info as you laid out.

Potentially first 2 weeks just run

300mg test 300 EQ
300mg test 300 eq
600mg test 300 eq
Repeat

Give EQ a little time to take effect

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[Hilly]

No reason at all why you cant do this if as you say all stays good.

Most people may well run into issues quite quickly but not all and if your happy to do this and manage rest days based on as your body feedback tells you then there is no reason not to do it.

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I’d wait to get all the clear first bud and the consider low dose primo if your not risk adverse

Fully agree here also

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As a base start point I tend to sit make clients at

1g per meal of sea salt plus an additional 1-2g around training.

so it tends to work out at

Training days – 7-8G
Rest day – 5-6G

Those with more muscle mass or signs they may need more we then increase it and at times look to add in potassium etc also

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There are several possibilities.

if you have used the same lab but different batches then there could be variance batch to batch.

if its a different lab then they could be using a different carrier oil or solvent percentage etc.

Test prop in general is more likely to cause Pip for most people than other esters also FYI. Some people cant touch the stuff at all full stop

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[Hilly]

in the majority of people both EQ and primo will reduce E2 and it will show on blood work yes. How much is of course individual to each person.

It is masteron that blocks it from binding to the receptor but does n to directly lower

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