Kuba
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Yes, glutathione can help with general inflammation and skin health
KPV is king for the rest
That combo is amazing
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I try to take 1-2 weeks off every 3-4 Months
Sas knows
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Low dose imo doesn’t need a break
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Most of it is psychological – accept your going to be hungry or feel like you need to eat , you have the choice to say no or give in
Instead of resorting to food rely on diet drinks & water , take a walk , don’t hoard food
Bring your calories to a point where you are not constantly thinking about food
Based of what you said here it’s ultimately very simple
Your desire to eat is higher than your desire to achieve your goals, that’s ultimately the case for most
When your goals mean a lot to you
No matter how you feel, that shit doesn’t happen Although it may feel like it
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How’s digestion ? For your bodyweight protein imo is higher than necessary
But if you feel good and making progress no issue
I like mix of salt & low salt for added potassium
Eaa – 0 need for that much in intra imo
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258.8 today post legs which is good, normally don’t drop post legs as much
Today / tomorrow rest
Tomorrow no Clen
Food as normal
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Nebivolol primary use inst blood pressure control. It might in some people by making your kidney retain potassium – it’s a secondary effect.
Nebiovolol is a newer generation beta blocker – its primary use is lower the heart rate. Lower heart rate = less left ventricle hypertrophy and heart changes over time.
Nebivolol is a drug used in heart failure to reverse remodeling. It’s also a particularly interesting drug in bodybuilders because it will increase nitric oxide production and thus endothelial health.
Finerenone is a mineral corticoid receptor blocker. It modulates aldosterone a hormone that is over active particularly;arly in bodyhbuilders and will destroy your heart over time.
Without a doubt every enhanced athlete should be using a beta blocker to reduce the burden on the heart.
Aldosterone is already managed well with Telmisartan, imo no need for extra. Considering telmsaran already prevents LFH in real world scenario but also in research[/quote]
Kuba, respectfully I disagree.
Telmisartan reduction, slight suppression in aldosterone through the AT1 receptor is mild and indirect.
Finerenone directly blocks the mineralocorticoid receptor, preventing aldosterone from exerting its effects on the heart, kidneys, and blood vessels, regardless of how much aldosterone is circulating.
In heart failure for heart remodeling you will use a combination of an SGLT2 inhibitor (you guys like Jardiance right?), a beta blocker (Nebivolol being a better choice although proponolol more studied for this) , and ACE or ARB and until recently Spirolactone which now has a better substitute Finerenone.
Combination therapy would be the better choice. SGLT2, FInerenone, beta blocker and ARB. It would cover all the angles – and still it won;t “prevent” heart remodeling and cardio toxicity induced by AAS which is not only LVH, its apoptosis, calcium influx, diastolic disfunction, heart mass increase, mistrial valve dysfunction….
Lets not forget Cardio, specifically Zone 2, is extremely heart protective for bodybuilders – I can explain why but I dont think anyone is interested…
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Respectfully I consult with top cardiologists working with bodybuilders who are recovering and looking to improve heart health not a single one has suggested this , if they did I’d consider it however not single one even mention it buddyInstagram- kuba_cielen | tb-jp.com/collections/clothing - The most anabolic clothing ever! |
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Nebivolol primary use inst blood pressure control. It might in some people by making your kidney retain potassium – it’s a secondary effect.
Nebiovolol is a newer generation beta blocker – its primary use is lower the heart rate. Lower heart rate = less left ventricle hypertrophy and heart changes over time.
Nebivolol is a drug used in heart failure to reverse remodeling. It’s also a particularly interesting drug in bodybuilders because it will increase nitric oxide production and thus endothelial health.
Finerenone is a mineral corticoid receptor blocker. It modulates aldosterone a hormone that is over active particularly;arly in bodyhbuilders and will destroy your heart over time.
Without a doubt every enhanced athlete should be using a beta blocker to reduce the burden on the heart.
Aldosterone is already managed well with Telmisartan, imo no need for extra. Considering telmsaran already prevents LFH in real world scenario but also in research
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Get job done 🙂 we can optimise the fuck out of everything but bigger picture is key
If cardio Pwo creates less stress then more progress will come
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257 – low day – didn’t adjust just look leaner
Today 259.2
Tomorrow check in day again so will asses see how physique has progressed
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10 mg and keep it at that so you have leeway to up the dose in case you run into heart failure.
Would add Fenerenone and nebivolol to that stack.
What are the benefits of both of them ? What dose do you recommend ?
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You don’t need nebivolol unless you need further BP control[/quote]
What about Fenerenone ?
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Never heard of it[/quote]
my current hearth health stack is :
40 mg telmisartan
5 mg tadalafil
5 mg jardiance
200 mg coq10
2 cap tbjp curcumin
500 mg citrus bergamot
10 g omega 3
any suggestions ?
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Love heart
Vital supper
Heart careMore priority over anything else
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259.7 rest day
Slept great rhr sitting at 57 with Clen in & cycle
Recovery feels great, body feels good
Do you personally use Nebivolol? What is your perspective in using Nebivolol and Clen simultaneously?[/quote]
I do not, I don’t need itMy BP naturally sits lower
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Metformin vs jardiance ?
Since when these even compare
They don’t
Is telmisaran and metformin enough for most sure
Can other tools benefit ?
Yeah they can 🙂
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10 mg and keep it at that so you have leeway to up the dose in case you run into heart failure.
Would add Fenerenone and nebivolol to that stack.
What are the benefits of both of them ? What dose do you recommend ?
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You don’t need nebivolol unless you need further BP control[/quote]
What about Fenerenone ?
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10 mg and keep it at that so you have leeway to up the dose in case you run into heart failure.
Would add Fenerenone and nebivolol to that stack.
What are the benefits of both of them ? What dose do you recommend ?
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