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Cycle here to a degree doesn’t matter that much, stick to test and dht ( same as I’d run in offseason )

Only difference I’d trying to get lean lean is I’d run test lower so that you have a clear picture of what fat vs water is – this only matters once you get lean 15/18% bf you just need to get lean bud so doesn’t matter that much

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Immense push day ticked off

Y raise
Incline prime
Flat cybex
Narrow prime
Cable fly
Single arm lateral lengthened bias
Push down
Overhead ext

Immense session and prime incline felt incredible now I had handles fixed up on it!

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Rest day today, everything smashed nice and early – 2 clients peaked and looks like winning one in Canada one in USA. Both absolutely on the money so I am over the moon. Season starts with 2 wins fingers crossed.

Weight 266.8 today –

Cycle

400 test 700 primo

Diet change n3 26/05/23

This will really see me shfit to get tidy over the next weeks before we need to push harder. Plan is to get pretty damn lean then push up nicely to 280+ before prep starts in jan.

Steps 6000 daily

Cardio rest day only 20 min stairs

Diet

All weights are raw uncooked

M1 –

30g whey

3 whole eggs 50g mushrooms

100g rice flake

100g mixed fruit

M2

200g Venision steak

125g rice

100g pineapple

50 veg

M3 pre

150 chicken

150 rice

20g honey

100g pineapple

Intra

25g mps max

30g sustain

150 ml pomegranate juice

40g performance fuel

200 ml coconut water

M4 post

175g rice flakes 50g whey iso 150g raspberries

M5

200g chicken

100g rice 50g greens 50g veg mix

50g peppers

M6

50g iso

100g gluten free cereal or rice flake

20g almond butter

150g mix berry

Rest day

M1

200g venison steak

50g rice

25 asparagus 25 veg mix

M2

200g Wild salmon 2 bagels

100g pineapple

25 veggies 25 veg mix 25g peppers

M3

60g iso

75g cor

150g blueberry

100g strawberry

M4

200g chicken

100g rice 50g avocado

25g green beans 25g veg mix

25g peppers

M5

200g chicken

50g rice

50g avocado

25g asparagus 25g veg mix

M6

60g iso

20g almond butter

100g cor 250g berries or apple

Hey Kuba, How long would you recommend taking a break from hgh? (6iu/day).

In your opinion, after 10 months of intake… how Long would you recommend to take a break?

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I don’t I just lower the dose, taking a break isn’t going to do anything.

Just lower the dose to a therapeutic dose of 2 iu per day.

No need for a break at all 0 benefits imo

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It all depends on your current body composition

Upload some pictures and then we can give you a guide of what needs to be done

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Drop down to trt at 150’mg per week total nothing else

Coming off to go back on makes no sense, it does far more harm then good as you physiologically go through a period where you are hypogonadal and psychologically it’s even worse.

Best option
12 week on running a cycle of test with dht maybe tiny bit of decca if you feel good on it ( if you have wood issues I’d just stick to test / mast )

Then 12 weeks on true trt would be best / healthiest option – some hcg during Trt will just keep your balls bigger doesn’t do anything else.

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Just reading this log will teach people how to get big big!

I remember reading all Jordan’s logs in prep in 2017 when I prepped my self for all my comps, most of my decision making was based of what I saw and read in his logs.

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Don’t do a 6 day split

This split would be ideal split into

Chest and tricep
Back and bicep
Rest
Shoulders arms
Legs
Repeat

That’s id you are well advanced if you are a beginner which soundd you are

Upper lower split is best for you, Jordan has broke those down on here and his YouTube

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Hi kuba

İ want to ask you a question about coaching , i want to start coaching and make some money for my bodybuilding aspirations and do not dependent to my family anymore , i want to grasp the concepts fully and dont want to mislead anyone i learned so much from here and im just trying to collect some clients ( which im struggling in that part too ) anyway, as you can guess i can not afford an educated coach for myself too , so my question is this i have some money which is ( hardly) enough for one of these courses : j3u or NASM which is better option for me with considering i have to coach myself for enhanced side too and maybe my clients ?

Also, i want to have high valuable skill which can create more money and i dont know which one is can give me that skills ?

Plus, i live in a country which with working 8,9 month in here full time ( which my gym performance suffers so much and with university and english class which i attend makes it impossible ) with no specific skill you barely can buy that kind of courses or knowledge ( with assumption of our money value not dropping any more than that in that 8,9 month time frame which is impossible )

İ dont want to waste time too, because that kind of courses sometimes they increase their price and that time its going to be impossible to afford that courses .

İm more inclined towards j3u, but whats your suggestion?

Hey bud

Have you ever got in stage ready shape your self ? Wanting to coach is great but first you have to really nail your own process

Scott Stevenson’s be your own bodybuilding coach book is where I would start if I was you

Then I would work my ass off and get results my self, if you can’t do that absolutely nobody will trust you.

My performance didn’t suffer when i did Pt during day, coaching and 4 nights per week security at clubs. So this just sounds more like an excuse to me if I am honest, if you want it bad enough you will literally make it happen.[/quote]

Yes i agree with you , im not saying being PT can have negative effect to my bodybuilding i mean other jobs have , and thats the reason i want to strat with being a PT

Unfortunately, i had a injury for a year and that took some time from me but im trying to nail my physique as you mentioned , im working on it

Actually i havent got stage shape ready yet and im not enhanced yet, too

İ bought that book after you recommended me on forums im going to read that too

After that what i can do ? Does signing up to one of those courses going to help me to coach myself and my clients ? Because i dont have much knowledge about drugs and blood works ? Or any other one ? What is your recommendation?

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Firstly you need to get in shape your self, me and pretty much anyone I know got in shape before drugs so drugs have nothing to do with getting in shape and being stage ready.

I mean I did Pt during day 7 days per week and worked during night 4 nights on top so I doubt any job is going to stop you getting in shape if you really want it.

Absolutely none of these things will help you coach until you have something to show from your own results and done it your self.

If you haven’t got in shape or ever done any of these drugs and actually studied them for years you can’t really think you’ll be able to do it from a course bud ? Stick to coaching and pt naturals first, if you ever do it your self then maybe consider the assisted route once you competed as natural and then explore further optioksn

For now your crowd should be one to one Pt to actually learn and understand how to coach and firstly get in shape your self or nobody will really come to you especially with no experience or any knowledge yet

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Hello Kuba, pleasure being able to (kind of) speak to you. Kind of a fan moment- I love your work, truly.

I am 23 years young, 3 years into my training journey, I would say my knowledge is decent in regards to training and diet (but the diet side, never implemented it myself unfortunately). I have unfortubslty put on way too much fat due to a lack of training and pure laziness after work etc.

Getting back into training, now I know no split is perfect, but what would you recommend? I used to do PPL x 2 per week with one rest day in between a routine, so push, pull, legs, rest, then repeat. So 6 days. Is this too much? I feel like recovery wasn’t the best, I wasn’t necessarily sore but I wasn’t really looking forward to training and I feel like for example I didn’t know how to vary the pull days- with push, I had push A- chest focused and push b- shoulder focused (for example).

A) Would you recommend i carry on with this split considering I am able to recover ? And if so, how would you bias each push / pull day? ESP pull as push I already stated how I bias above.

B) I was thinking to switch to a PUSH, PULL, REST, LEGS AND UPPER BODY split- as you can imagine more recovery?

So what you could run here is

Push
Pull
Legs
Rest
Push
Pull
Rest
Legs

Or you could try

Push
Pull
Legs
Rest
Upper
Lower
Rest

This split I feel like would tick the boxes the most for you right now if your focus is on upper body

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The pomegranate is there for health benefits really bud as you listen to the video I explain it there – I wouldn’t ever use it alone, always mixed with a quality Intra like sustain or performance fuel exactly as I do

Leg day yesterday and main hip hinge day

Very happy with how everything moved aside from tweaking my adductor again so sleep was a bit iffy had to get a lie in which I don’t like doing tbh

Luckily it is a rest day, another reason why I feel like I always need a rest post legs as the session is always going to smash me unless I ran super low volume

Session

Adductor x2
Seated ham x2
Sldl x1 RDL x1
Lying ham x2
Leg press x1
Single leg press x1
Leg ext x1
Calf x2

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Do what you enjoy, one thing to note tho bud and any good powerlifter will tell you this

Focus on one goal at a time, either train to get stronger or train to build muscle trying to do both will yield very little results across both

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Drop your test to 150 mg add some tamoxifen and then don’t go anywhere near as high with test,

You will likely need a mix of test and dht for a 500 total.

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Ok I’ve spent all the morning binge Reading/watching the new and old Jordan’s videos and post haha 😂

I came up with this set up from an old Jordan’s facebook post and the setup looks a bit more fun to me than the “new” in the YouTube series (and that’s It to me, the fact that It looks a bit more fun).

“You will train each muscle twice a week (…)

One is going to be heavy, one light .

You will pick three variations. Let’s say barbell, dumbbell and machine.

So now we have 6 diff ways we hit each muscle, light and heavy on each of the above variations.

For the heavy session, you will do one rest pause set. The first part fail in the 6-10 rep range , rack the bar, rest, pick up the same weight and go again, grind out to failure maybe 3-4 more reps. Rack it, rest , and then you are going a third time and grind to failure 1 or 2 reps. So the rest pause total maybe 8 -4-2 so 12 reps total. That goes in your log book.

For the light session we will do the same rest pause set up but first set fail 15-20 reps. So the total for the light maybe 20-10-5 , 35 total , log booked.

Now each week I want you to work through your variations. So after 3 weeks will go back to variation one , check your log book total, and absolutely smash that number , trust me you will.

I want you to do this every week, for 6 months (…).

The kicker , DO NOT do more work. This is it , twice a week, the volume is low , but the intensity of those rest pause sets is sky high , grind the reps over and over.

Again, I’m just paying forward some of the DC esq approaches I have been fortunate enough to have shared with me , progressive overload is and always will be the most effective way to grow.

Jp”

Monday (week 1) UPPER HEAVY 6-10RM

Incline bench

Seal Row

Machine Shoulder Press

Lat pulldown

Close grip bench press

Tuesday (week 1) LOWER HEAVY 6-10RM

Dumbell curls

Ham Curls

glute ham raise

Leg press

Lunges

Calfs 10second eccentric, 5 second stretch , 1 second up phase

Calves

Thursday (week 1) – UPPER LIGHT 15-25 RM

SAME EXERCISES AS UPPER HEAVY

Friday (week 1) LOWER LIGHT 15-25 RM

SAME EXERCISES AS LOWER HEAVY

———————————————–

Week 2 same setup as week one with different exercises (a second rotation)

Eg. For Chest Incline dumbell Press

————————————————

Week 3 same setup as week one and two with different exercises (a third rotation)

Eg. For Chest incline machine Press

Week 4: start back at rotation n. 1

Looks good man

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Pull day

Hit some good numbers, 11 reps with 4 and half plates on gym shop pull down and I think I can get up to 6 pps on this piece by December / January – all other lifts up

The only thing that’s a bit shitty is just the sleep starting to take a hit a little last 3 nights energy dipping a touch so we will see.

Leg raise

Gym shop pull down x2
Upper back prime row x2
Single arm prime lat x2
Prime pin stack x2
Shrug x1
Pull over x1
Reverse pec dec x2
Gym pin curl x2
Bicep lengthenedx2

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Hi kuba

İ want to ask you a question about coaching , i want to start coaching and make some money for my bodybuilding aspirations and do not dependent to my family anymore , i want to grasp the concepts fully and dont want to mislead anyone i learned so much from here and im just trying to collect some clients ( which im struggling in that part too ) anyway, as you can guess i can not afford an educated coach for myself too , so my question is this i have some money which is ( hardly) enough for one of these courses : j3u or NASM which is better option for me with considering i have to coach myself for enhanced side too and maybe my clients ?

Also, i want to have high valuable skill which can create more money and i dont know which one is can give me that skills ?

Plus, i live in a country which with working 8,9 month in here full time ( which my gym performance suffers so much and with university and english class which i attend makes it impossible ) with no specific skill you barely can buy that kind of courses or knowledge ( with assumption of our money value not dropping any more than that in that 8,9 month time frame which is impossible )

İ dont want to waste time too, because that kind of courses sometimes they increase their price and that time its going to be impossible to afford that courses .

İm more inclined towards j3u, but whats your suggestion?

Hey bud

Have you ever got in stage ready shape your self ? Wanting to coach is great but first you have to really nail your own process

Scott Stevenson’s be your own bodybuilding coach book is where I would start if I was you

Then I would work my ass off and get results my self, if you can’t do that absolutely nobody will trust you.

My performance didn’t suffer when i did Pt during day, coaching and 4 nights per week security at clubs. So this just sounds more like an excuse to me if I am honest, if you want it bad enough you will literally make it happen.

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