[Nathan]

This is very common bud. Depending on your dose it might be worth split your dose.

Sub Q pre bed and IM preWO

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Exactly the same as the guys here use the best I can and keep it consistent all the way through

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[Nathan]

Really felt today I stepped forward a touch more with my strength as one crutch felt more stable and easier, my flexion felt better. Still a long way to go but when you have a day where you can clearly tell you have moved forward abitit builds a little more confidence. Like 2 days ago I wasn’t confident I would be off crutches by week 7-8 but now today I am,

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The days are racking up. It’s slow, its repetitive, it’s frustrating, it’s still panful, I still don’t have loads of flexion. Still swollen but I’m working. And it’s improving slowly. I’m aiming to be off my crutches by week 8 I’m in to 1 crutch for half of the day in the house. Coming up to week 5 so I have 3 more weeks as a goal to build tolerance and strength so I can be crutch free.

I’d like to light bike work by then too. But again we shall see how things progress. What’s the scar tissue and swelling goes down I will have more ROM. Just patience

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[Nathan]

I think 12iu GH is plenty enough IGF-LR3 for a 6-8 week block would be something to trial for yourself and see if you get a nice response.

PWO for me would be the way to go. But pre has been argued also due to half life. But I would prefer PWO into the trained muscle. Be aware of hypoglycaemia risks so 100% have your PWO ready to eat

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[Nathan]

Agreed

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Busy day today and my knee is feeling it. In person check in and pull then physio and jus a long day having my leg down. Which means by the end of the day it’s very sore and swollen. So a couple of days trying to freshen up reduce swelling. And just take it steady and not rush

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Trained push today which was great to be fair.

Low incline smith x 3
Flat machine press x 3
Shoulder press x 2
Pec dec x 3
SA cuff lateral x 2
Tricep push down x 3

I can’t plant my feet and brace hard into the floor. So loading isn’t crazy. I’m also very de trained and feel very natty. It’s going to take some work getting back into the groove with everything. But once I’m more capable I will start ramping things up from an assistance point of view too

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[Nathan]

Exactly 👍

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[Nathan]

Hey bud so before you start chasing LH and FSH numbers on bloodwork you need to understand that that won’t give you an accurate picture of fertility at all.

Because you are taking HCG, which is exogenous LH, and HMG, which contains exogenous FSH, your bloodwork is going to show elevated or present LH and FSH regardless of what your body is actually producing naturally. Sometimes it doesn’t even show on bloods either. Because it’s not bioidentical. So sometimes doesn’t flag even if the protocol is working.

The only meaningful marker here is another sperm test and the timing of that matters.

A full sperm maturation cycle takes approximately 74 days from the point where a sperm cell is first produced to the point where it is fully mature and present in an ejaculate. I’d give it about 2 weeks after that so around 90 days from when you started the HCG and HMG protocol before a repeat sperm analysis is going to give you meaningful data on whether it is working.

Testing earlier than that is not going to tell you anything useful and chasing LH and FSH numbers on bloodwork whilst running exogenous versions of both is misleading.

Stay the course with the protocol, give it the full 90 days minimum, and then repeat the sperm test. That is the only result that actually matters here.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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A little more progress with flexion today so I’m happy even though it’s still very slow. Going to train locally tomorrow push. When I’ve done my check ins and round 1 rehab. I’m just very much looking forward to getting off crutches over the next 4 weeks and having some independence

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I like COR fridged overnight texture is good 👍

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Knees a little sore today after a solid day of rehab and another session in the gym. I’ve done more walking today and the leg/knee feels a little fatigued.

I am progressing still daily as I should it’s still frustrating, but that because I want more progress. Quicker than I want but I know I can’t force it.

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Time to diet 100% if your going to use a GLP the I wouldn’t opt for mounjaro. I would be opting for Reta.

But again getting leaner will help this straight off the bat.

Be helpful to see your current body composition what you class as 12% and your current food setup. And supps

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[Nathan]

Personally for me clen will always be a staple. But we can now get away with using less and keep overall systematic stress lower across the prep and keep sleep in a better place. With the use of multiple pathways.

But if you don’t get in with it don’t use it.

My go to with clients has been:-

Clen
MOTS-C
SLU

Thyroid introduced as needed when bloods dictate or metabolic adaptation occurs. I usually have T4 in at replacement and then T3 layered on top as and when needed usually pull bloods at 6-8 weeks out and go from bloods.

Yohimbine I’m not massively keen on. But it has a place for some.

L-carnitine I like but again not going to be a game changer.

5 amino has a place when your already lean towards the back end.

With this I’ve not had to move clen past 40mcg for most clients. And only had to introduce thyroid in some at very minimal dosage.

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