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I think he [Chris Kuess] advocates for lower protein amounts than what you’d usually expect for a 120kg bodybuilder but he doesn’t skip protein in meals. Last I knew, his pre was CoR, whey and banana.

If you struggle with digestion pre training then get some steps done in between your pre meal and training.

hi, so chris pre meal is rice cakes with a banana in all his recent youtube vids.

The thing with steps is i work around 9 – 10 hours depending on the day so i have my pre meal around 4pm as i usually leave work between 5-6 but this can vary massively as i work in logistics.

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If you feel this is working for you.. then roll with it, I still think a little more protein atleast for me in that pre meal.. seems your getting enough carbs during the workout at current with regards to adding more carbs..

Hi Kerry, thanks for the input

Personally i like the approach of Christian Kuess (very well known Austrian coach) of having protein a little lower during gaining phases as Anabolism will be high anyway because of increased Carbs, Training performance and AAS. I also feel I am pushing my limit of protein as it does slow my digestion rather significantly.

When I do my next calorie increase I will add in Protein into the pre meal and see if i get along with it.

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I know Christian and I think most of us agree protein can be redundant after a certain point in a gaining phase but I don’t think he would have no protein in your pre workout meal.

You are 100% not pushing your protein your at 1.05g per lb of BW and that is inclusive I’m guessing of trace macros.

If your natural then I would agree 1-1.25g is perfectly fine.

If your assisted the 1.25g is perfectly acceptable and should not impact digestion if your carbohydrate sources, food volume, fibre intake are sensible.

Most of us here have been coaching 10+ years. So we are just giving you our advice that you asked for.

This is what we would do.

I would have some more calorie dense sources and potentially look at fibre intake

Maybe pull down things like

Oats
Potato
Rice
Veggies

And add in things like

Dates
Organic raw honey
Raisins
More Fruit lower fodmap

This will for me improve palatability, meal volume. And digestion.

It yeh I would 100% have a protein serving in each meal[/quote]

thanks nathan, i was not trying to be rude or anything if that is what you felt i was unless i am interpreting this wrong

Would the carb change not be redundant as i am swapping more complex carbs with less complex ones?

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If you feel this is working for you.. then roll with it, I still think a little more protein atleast for me in that pre meal.. seems your getting enough carbs during the workout at current with regards to adding more carbs..

Hi Kerry, thanks for the input

Personally i like the approach of Christian Kuess (very well known Austrian coach) of having protein a little lower during gaining phases as Anabolism will be high anyway because of increased Carbs, Training performance and AAS. I also feel I am pushing my limit of protein as it does slow my digestion rather significantly.

When I do my next calorie increase I will add in Protein into the pre meal and see if i get along with it.

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Does he advocate meals with no protein then? Interesting if so[/quote]

yes, his pre meal is a banana and rice cakes with honey, no protein source

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If you feel this is working for you.. then roll with it, I still think a little more protein atleast for me in that pre meal.. seems your getting enough carbs during the workout at current with regards to adding more carbs..

Hi Kerry, thanks for the input

Personally i like the approach of Christian Kuess (very well known Austrian coach) of having protein a little lower during gaining phases as Anabolism will be high anyway because of increased Carbs, Training performance and AAS. I also feel I am pushing my limit of protein as it does slow my digestion rather significantly.

When I do my next calorie increase I will add in Protein into the pre meal and see if i get along with it.

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How far away from training is your meal 3 and 4?

Hello Michaela,

M1 07:20 am

M2 10:30 am

M3 01:30 pm

M4 – Pre 4pm

Training – 5:10pm

Post directly after post workout cardio

Final Meal 8:20pm

Bedtime 9:30-10pm

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How many mg in the vial? Need to know this before dosing

70mg total

split across 50mg GHK, 10mg TB, 10mg BPC

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thanks to all of you for the responses, I prepped this exact meal plan up to (including) sunday as the food volume part is what I think might cause issues but I will see and Increase rice and lower potatoes accordingly most likely as rice just goes down super easily for me.

I am not a huge fan of having protein preworkout as I feel my digestion during the session then gets impacted.

Marc:

I use 40g of Cluster dextrin / Electrolyte powder as that keeps my bloodglucose and energy levels good during the training session (i am type one diabetic so this is crucial for ensuring session quality)

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Thanks all of you for the reply, on the package it says “ASC-Certified” which is the seafood quality sigil for good farming etc. where I live, so I think it should be fine was also considering prawns but dropped that thought as they’re too expensive (250g – 7 EUR).

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Worldwide Eq is just as popular as DHT are in a prep environment and have been used extensively for decades in reality.

Both work very well indeed, its about finding what suits you in all areas.

Drug availability
Drug cost
How you respond to each drug etc

Eq works very well for this goal if you respond well to it

Thanks Peter. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but with EQ would you base the dose on avoiding an E2 crash, or would you just directly run a 2:1 test to EQ ratio ?[/quote]

start with 3/1 Test to EQ if you’re lean even 4/1 can work fine

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this is something i would say is very individual dependent, but i would still treat it like every other muscle group – if you want it to grow maximally train it directly and hard

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I agree with hilly would only need to utilise TRT t4 and re check bloods in 4 weeks to see if more / less is needed or if it can stay as is

thanks to you aswell meg

also quick side note crazy progress!

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Gh reduces t4

Your taking a BIG dose of GH hence reduced t4

Which js why every one suggests supplementing with T4 when using GH

with my current levels, what dose should I start my T4 at

also okay if i take it first thing in the morning pre cardio about 1h away from first caffeine serving also take all my magnesium before bed

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75-100mcg.

Yes always take thyroid med like that[/quote]

thanks hilly for the help.

I will start at 75mcg on wake, and reeasses bloodwork in about 5-6 weeks

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Gh reduces t4

Your taking a BIG dose of GH hence reduced t4

Which js why every one suggests supplementing with T4 when using GH

with my current levels, what dose should I start my T4 at

also okay if i take it first thing in the morning pre cardio about 1h away from first caffeine serving also take all my magnesium before bed

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78 would not concern me at all.

However add in 2 hard HIT sessions per week. It will come down

Drop GH out totally for a week n it will probably come down from here to

Thanks hilly, what HR and length of these HIT sessions should I aim for?

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I would do As an example the below on spin bike

2 min warm up
8 x 15 second sprints
60 second rest between sprints
2 min cool down

Just go as hard as you can[/quote]

Thanks, will implement this on my restdays

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It’s worth having an echocardiogram imo

Thanks kuba, I will look into my options and see when i can get one done