[Nathan]

You can see here there are may different answers so there won’t be one definitive.

I was having 21g a day in prep last year and was dry as a bone. I sweat a lot. But it’s not just salt it’s overall electrolyte balance. A mix of pink iodised and lo salt

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Added a new exercise in today. Lying abduction. Which felt good. Challenging but nice to move a little more.

Swelling noticeably less today after dialling it back for 2 days.

But bruising has really come out today and my shins, calves, ankles are sore.

The pain was maybe 1 less notch today. Progressed my rehab again today which is mega. But still very much in pain, I got a little too confident and nearly decked it at the stairs today don’t know how I caught myself but that would have been bad.

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Same again today reduced volume try to control the swelling and pain as much as possible and will have a good crack tomorrow. I’m progressing in my movements but gone backwards with pain for 2 days and being able to plant my foot as th pressure in my shin and legs is mental.

Starting to get some like burning sensation pains across my knee areas it’s so weird trying to figure out what is actually hurting. Managed a shower today was a nightmare again trying to get in and out but we did it so feel a lot fresher.

Another day closer to the goal tomorrow

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Delta
Baltic
Bio amino
Bio labs

There all very similar IMO try a few and see much you prefer

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Pain is at its peak now for next couple of days I feel. Rough today. Dialled volume back on rehab a touch and used the cryo cuff about 7-8 times today to keep on top of swelling.

Still feeling positive just want to get out of this fist phase of pain and lack of independence.

Once I can get back in the gym for some upper I’ll be happy

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Day 5 today and I woke up positive and did my first round of rehab after breakfast and some work. And had made massive improvements.

I did notice as the day went on my pain increased and swelling and bruising increased. Day 5-7 is usually the worst. But I thought I was doing ok then this evening hit me hard. It was rough.

Throbbing and warm like it was pulsing my ankle and calf and quad were quite visibly swollen and painful to touch. I just can’t get comfy, I’m icing every hour this evening.

Still no ibuprofen. Just 3 lots of paracetamol today and I had some codeine tonight because I will be getting zero sleep at this rate

I did have a panic thinking is this normal. But it is normal I’ve basically had 5 different procedures in one sitting and gone through massive tissue trauma.

So I’ve just got to keep doing what him doing and put up with the pain and crack on

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Been a tough couple of days as expected. Took my dressings off today day 4 so I could shower etc and re dress the wounds.

There was a lot more blood than I expected but I got the dressing off eventually with some help and cut it off. Showered which was a right task. But felt better for it.

Had my first physio session with Toby. And he’s very happy with progress in extension and quad activation, I’ve just not got to get carried away.

There was some swelling and bruising come out today and the pain was higher. As expected. It’s probably going to get a little tougher over the next few days. Sleep isn’t great. And I feel pretty useless. But it’s all part of the process.

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Personally for me no. But assess if you can tolerate a little and still sleep fine

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Day 2 – post surgery. Little more swelling today. And pain is much more apparent now nerve blockers have worn off.

Although I have more stability and ability to weight bare. I’m bored of being sat down already.

Rehab was frustrating and painful today. Really fucking frustrating…..your leg won’t do what you want it to do. It just can’t. And it hurts. But I will make sure I keep working to get it there. I’ve got another round of rehab to do now’s and then chill for the night. That will be 3rd one today I will go to 4 after seeing Toby Wednesday.

I have my bandage off then and have a waterproof dressing on.

We keep positive

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PHASE 1: MAXIMUM INTERVENTION
Weeks 1-4

-BPC-157: 1mg twice daily
-TB-500: 1mg twice daily
-Klow Blend: 5mg daily
-LL-37: 350mcg daily
-Growth Hormone: 6 IU daily (4 IU pre-bed, 2 IU fasted)

This is the critical healing window. Tissue repair is most active in the first 4 weeks. Saturating the system with healing peptides drives angiogenesis, collagen deposition, and organised tissue repair whilst LL-37 prevents infection when risk is highest.

Obviously health supps too Will be the full JP range and doubling up doses on certain supps for max effectiveness

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Glad to hear everything is going well. Good luck with a speedy recovery.

How heavy are you expecting to go with the healing peptides?

Cheers bud I will List below now I’m gonna go heavy ish lol

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Good to hear the surgery went okay!

What will your protocol be for best recovery ? Everything from training, food and peds?

Thankyou mate I will List my week 1-4 below!

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Today was surgery day

I arrived at hospital at 6:45am 305lbs – 30lbs down from xmas. Exactly why I said I would be for the op, I went down for surgery around 9:15am

The staff were very very good. I felt super confident and comfortable. Pheebs stayed with me until I went down and then she went to train.

I woke up around 1:45pm in the recovery room. I was in theatre around 3 hours, 2 surgeons worked on me. They had to do a little more work when they opened me up. And I’m going have a nice scar down my knee cap/patella tendon, a bigger scar than I wanted but as long as I recover I’m happy.

They used a B2B patella tendon graft for my curate. They had to tidy my tibia up from the previous surgery as it was untidy and needed shaving a little. Also there was a slight shift of my knee cap. Well as fixing both medial and lateral
Meniscus tears.

They then did an LET lateral endoscopy tenodesis where they use quad tendon to stabilise my lateral knee function.

So a pretty big surgery. They said they don’t know how I’d managed to hold the muscle or do what I had done for so many years.

Anyway because of the procedure I’m in a knee brace fixed other than my rehab for 2 weeks with minimal flexion allowed, which wasn’t the original plan. But because what they had to do once inside things the case. So it’s like a big cricket pad. So my bone fuses how they want. I still need to work on extension and quad activation, so that will be the most important aspect for the next 2 weeks .

I am in a little pain and I’m getting used to crutches but still wait baring partially.

I’ e had a little oramorph and some codeine-post op, and just had some more to hopefully help sleep.

I do have some laxilase they provided me to keep regular. With the codeine. I very tired so I’m getting my head down and hopefully I sleep ok

Will keep you all updated / fire away with any questions

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Agree with hilly on this one you have a few options but your set up will have to be a little different. I would suggest adjusting the stack slightly rather than adding in AI’s

Test, Primo/mast & NPP

Test EQ/Mast NPP

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Morning guys. Up bright and early as I’ve got my knee operation today. So I’ve got to get to the hospital in Sheffield for 7am

I’ve prepped my meals for when I wake this afternoon trusty COR for when I wake.

Little nervous as expected not for being out under but for the long road to recovery and rehab ahead. But the work
Will get done!

Will update everyone soon

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