[Ryan]

How about NPP?

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[Ryan]

Not sure if any of us qualify to answer this, maybe @drdeanstmart may have an idea. I’m sure you can build.muscle with the correct approach but one that doesn’t compromise health.

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[Ryan]

Its always possible but will be balls.to the wall and you just have to be careful not to compromise muscle. Like Mark said a little more info and maybe we could help.

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[Ryan]

hey, is it definitely muscular? not a swollen gland (lymphoid). is there a lump?

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[Ryan]

As above you just put your body into shock. You jumped to low cals and went balls to the wall with training. These things need to come down gradually so your body can adjust accordingly.

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check in day today, weight down to 113.3. Body seems to be responding so far. This week we put another 50mg tren ace in. current cycle below. We also took out nut butter from my evening isolate meal.

400mg test E
200mg npp
150mg tren ace
0.5mg arimidex x 3
2iu gh am and pm training days only.

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My current list is below, i feel great on these, Strength, recovery, joints, digestion all feel great, thats a good sign after 16 yrs of heavy training. Like Kuba said Its down the the individual and budget. I put these in over time putting each one in separately for a week or two then removing them to see if i felt the benefits. The health supps have really helped with blood work too.

Daily Supplements:
#EAAs from MPS max
# Omega 3: 2g am 2g pm
# Ashwiganda 
# Organic Multi vit
# CPD oil
# L glutamine 10g a day (first thing empty stomach)
# creatine from my MPS max and Sustain
# Curcumin am and pm 1000mg max
# liposomal Vit C 1000mg to 2000mg per day
# saw palmetto
# L carnatine 1000mg to 2000mg per day
# Co enzyme Q10
# vitamin E
# Vit D 5000iu with Vit K2
#glutathione liposomal 5ml a day (1st thing, empty stomach).
# supplementneeds blood pressure and kidney stack. 8 capsules a day.
# MPA cardiosolve
# supplementneeds sleep stack if i feel like i need it.
# with my MPS max and Sustain i have various other supps going in like A-Glucan (amazing for immune support) and HICA.

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[Ryan]

leg day with Harry. great session, had more volume than i have been doing but was a nice change as ive been moving heavyweights for a while now. Got a massage scheduled for tonight and gona do my check in pics. i will post my pics and current cycle, we’ve decided to add another 50mg tren ace. bringing me to a whopping 150mg lol

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[Ryan]

clen will help, introduce it after you have change some variables i.e activity, then some cals then when you stool some clem. i would start at 20mcg then work slowly up over time.

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[Ryan]

or push after legs the rest then back

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hey, i would recommend a rest day between pull and legs. both leg and back days should be extremely taxing so placing a rest day inbetween can be very beneficial.

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pull day today, not the best workout, Strength has dropped a little down to reduced cals. we have increased tren ace to 150mg per week, feel like im tightening up daily so we will see what tomorrows check in pics will show.

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SUCH  a good standard of classic guys this year at this show… FINALLY! All came in carrying a lot of quality mass, all in the right places, amazing conditioning, good lines and the posing was spot on! Very good judging and The Black Panther shut it down, must have been even better to watch in the flesh!

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yer the judging was spot on, the winner had god given muscle bellies and shape. Will have a big future as a pro i think.

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[Ryan]

So are you only having 50mg twice weekly? I thought with tren ace it was best at least every other day

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yer i run low doses, it still works well, thats what JP has me doing.

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[Ryan]

Tren is a much stronger compound and great when used for contest prep. You could leave npp in for now and add 100mg tren ace over 2 shots. Thats what im currently doing under JPs instructions. seeing results even at that dose. we will slowly increase as we go.

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